I have to admit, AWD vs. FWD and 350hp vs. 275hp, I thought is was going to be a blow out... If you want to skip the intro and lead-up, go right to the 9:50 mark for the lap times.
Ford Focus RS vs. Hyundai Veloster N... Eye Opening!!!
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I discovered this fact recently and I was just as shocked as everyone else at the intersection.... Nothing like crossing 4 lanes sideways in morning rush hour.
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But isn't the RS FWD like 90% of the time? [emoji6]
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Be interesting to see if the SCCA puts it in DS with the others and, if they do, would they re-class the ‘18 RS to DS. Maybe the ‘21 N has already been classed but... seems to me since the CTR and Veloster N, et al, are still in production and able to receive model year upgrades, and the RS isn’t, that some changes might be needed.
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Going to necro this thread. I bought a 2021 N with the new 8-speed wet DCT in January. I only went for a test drive because I was curious about the new DCT. Within 20 minutes I was sold.
In the 2021 MY, along with the DCT option, they added new seats, all the modern safety features are standard, and the performance pack is now standard (275 hp 260 lbs/ft), which includes the electronic controlled LSD. The torque output is also grossly under-rated by Hyundai. Dyno plots I have seen all show 255-265 tq to the wheels.
From a slow roll, the N is as fast as my RS. It feels just as planted on the road and feels like it handles just as well. There really is no understeer, and the lift off oversteer is much more subtle than the Focus ST and Fiesta ST. It's a bit surprising how fast you can get on the throttle out of a turn being fwd.
It is much more comfortable as a daily driver. The spring and damper rates are spot on for all three modes. The interior, though very cheap looking, is laid out perfectly. You sit much lower in the car, and there is even plenty of leg room in the back seat with me in my driving position at 6'2". I have boost, oil temp, individual tire pressures, g meter, and lap timer all right in front of me in the center display between the tach and speedo. The steering wheel is thicker and feels better in my hands, and the steering feel is a bit tighter than the RS.
I am still debating if I am going to keep the RS or not. I still do love the RS, and the fact that we probably will not see another RS badged car in the US makes me want to keep it just for that reason. This Veloster N is really good though, and the new DCT is absolutely stellar.
In the 2021 MY, along with the DCT option, they added new seats, all the modern safety features are standard, and the performance pack is now standard (275 hp 260 lbs/ft), which includes the electronic controlled LSD. The torque output is also grossly under-rated by Hyundai. Dyno plots I have seen all show 255-265 tq to the wheels.
From a slow roll, the N is as fast as my RS. It feels just as planted on the road and feels like it handles just as well. There really is no understeer, and the lift off oversteer is much more subtle than the Focus ST and Fiesta ST. It's a bit surprising how fast you can get on the throttle out of a turn being fwd.
It is much more comfortable as a daily driver. The spring and damper rates are spot on for all three modes. The interior, though very cheap looking, is laid out perfectly. You sit much lower in the car, and there is even plenty of leg room in the back seat with me in my driving position at 6'2". I have boost, oil temp, individual tire pressures, g meter, and lap timer all right in front of me in the center display between the tach and speedo. The steering wheel is thicker and feels better in my hands, and the steering feel is a bit tighter than the RS.
I am still debating if I am going to keep the RS or not. I still do love the RS, and the fact that we probably will not see another RS badged car in the US makes me want to keep it just for that reason. This Veloster N is really good though, and the new DCT is absolutely stellar.
I’m sure the Veloster N is spectacular and all, but apart from the limited practicality there’s really one thing that differentiates the RS. It’s not just the fact of having AWD, but the ability of that system to do a pretty good impression of a RWD car with rotation on throttle. The CTR and VN will always require you to approach them on FWD terms, which is a different dynamic experience. No other hot hatch offers an RWD feel, except for the M140i which we do not get in the US.
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