Not that surprised. Nothing on that track that would out work FWD. Real shame is that Ford doesn't offer anything in America to compete against it.

 

Awesome, just saw this one on their channel. Given that the N just won R&T's PCOTY as well, it seems a lot of people and media are taking notice. For a first effort on a dedicated performance line, I have to say Hyundai hit it out of the park with this thing.

 

Watch the videos comparing the mk4 foST to our mk3 foRS and you’ll see we’re almost no faster..

 

So Twinster system is nice to drive with, but does not necessarily translate to faster lap times?

I recall a local review where a RWD BMW 140 lapped quicker than the RS.

 

My son went shopping for a WRX/STI and came back with a Veloster N performance, he had been driving a tuned TT.
He thinks it a panic to drive.

 

I came from a tuned mazdaspeed3 that is faster in a straight line but gets SLAUGHTERED putting the power down off slower corners. In normal city driving, this, for me, is massive.

 

Decent fair weather daily driver...

 

This is the first generation of the N brand and they've already surpassed the GTI and Focus ST. Never thought I'd see the day that a Hyundai would beat VW at their own game but here we are. This car is punching above its weight against the Type R, Subaru STI and Focus RS too.

 

Is a nice car. A Street prepped one that was running at Franklin, NC was faster than my RS on all-seasons. Well, the pro driver in it was faster, not the co driver. If I was in the market for a FWD again it would likely be one of the top 3 choices I think.

 

RS vs Veloster N in the Snow......RS wins.

 

Not all markets have snow concerns, and FWD with snow tires is still rather good.

 

The i30N is a fantastic car, but locally gets smashed in all regards by the civic type R which is still king of FWD.

 

I don't think awd in the dry really makes sense until over 500whp.. does this surprise anyone? RS w/ drift stick in the snow is something magical. Better than a video game. RS drift mode in the dry is something special too. Good gateway to a proper rwd machine.

 

Don't believe everything you read by today's motor journalists.

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Goto:
114 and 161 in table and take note of time difference.
Yes the RS is good actually very good in 2019/2020

PS - I am back and yes I still have the RS.

 

What's more interesting is what rests right next to the RS on that chart with the same lap time; less weight, drive wheels, and power. The type R really is a well balanced piece, if it weren't so f'd up in the styling dept...
And I suspect not as fragile of an engine...

 

Pretty sure id take a random review of a car with a grain of salt. It can always be swayed what ever way they want it to be. Anyone who has tracked their car knows how long it can take to get used to the car, the setup, which mode to have for which track. You can go all day and only get a handful of 'perfect' laps, if that.

You cant jump from one car/setup to another and expect like for like. This guy is chatting most of the time, looking down at things. Not doubting the quality of a N or FWD these days but not going to get blown away by one persons comparison video.

 

I wish those lightening laps had links to the detail of conditions when a car was run. Temp/humidity and which options a car has as any of those could impact the times run. For the RS I'm not sure if it was on the MPSS or MSC2s, does if have the sunroof?

Edit: I was able to google the details, Cup 2s, and does not appear to have a sunroof. But the base price is not correct for a 2016.

 

I find this youtube reviewer very informative...

I even bought one of his t-shirts.

 

In snow, RS faster? Probably. Way, way more fun? Definitely.

As a daily driver, the RS is a completely different experience in the winter. In the summer, it has so much grip. In the winter, it's a drift missile.

 

In the winter, it's a drift missile.

I discovered this fact recently and I was just as shocked as everyone else at the intersection.... Nothing like crossing 4 lanes sideways in morning rush hour.

 

If the N was RWD I'd be all over it... me and FWD don't mesh.

 

But isn't the RS FWD like 90% of the time? [emoji6]

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Tested: 2021 Hyundai Veloster N DCT Gets Quicker and Comfier (caranddriver.com)

 

Be interesting to see if the SCCA puts it in DS with the others and, if they do, would they re-class the ‘18 RS to DS. Maybe the ‘21 N has already been classed but... seems to me since the CTR and Veloster N, et al, are still in production and able to receive model year upgrades, and the RS isn’t, that some changes might be needed.

 

how long until the tranny blows up?

 

Going to necro this thread. I bought a 2021 N with the new 8-speed wet DCT in January. I only went for a test drive because I was curious about the new DCT. Within 20 minutes I was sold.

In the 2021 MY, along with the DCT option, they added new seats, all the modern safety features are standard, and the performance pack is now standard (275 hp 260 lbs/ft), which includes the electronic controlled LSD. The torque output is also grossly under-rated by Hyundai. Dyno plots I have seen all show 255-265 tq to the wheels.

From a slow roll, the N is as fast as my RS. It feels just as planted on the road and feels like it handles just as well. There really is no understeer, and the lift off oversteer is much more subtle than the Focus ST and Fiesta ST. It's a bit surprising how fast you can get on the throttle out of a turn being fwd.

It is much more comfortable as a daily driver. The spring and damper rates are spot on for all three modes. The interior, though very cheap looking, is laid out perfectly. You sit much lower in the car, and there is even plenty of leg room in the back seat with me in my driving position at 6'2". I have boost, oil temp, individual tire pressures, g meter, and lap timer all right in front of me in the center display between the tach and speedo. The steering wheel is thicker and feels better in my hands, and the steering feel is a bit tighter than the RS.

I am still debating if I am going to keep the RS or not. I still do love the RS, and the fact that we probably will not see another RS badged car in the US makes me want to keep it just for that reason. This Veloster N is really good though, and the new DCT is absolutely stellar.

 

Hyundai hass come along way....my first car was an Excel . Drove that thing into the ground. You could keep driving that thing but just got to a point it couldn't pass smog.

 

I’m sure the Veloster N is spectacular and all, but apart from the limited practicality there’s really one thing that differentiates the RS. It’s not just the fact of having AWD, but the ability of that system to do a pretty good impression of a RWD car with rotation on throttle. The CTR and VN will always require you to approach them on FWD terms, which is a different dynamic experience. No other hot hatch offers an RWD feel, except for the M140i which we do not get in the US.