What's this I hear about the Recaros in the show car not coming to the US? Anyone else hear this? It's not a deal breaker for me but that would kinda suck. I heard it from a reputable friend but don't have any references other than that.
No high end Recaros in the US?
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But with this logic we're assuming that the ST3 seats are crap...which they are not, right? I have an ST1 and love my seats for what they are. They seem pretty durable. If I'm saving a few grand from the EU version because of the seats and a couple other things I'm cool with that. As long as we get all the identical performance goodies.
"I have an ST1 and love my seats for what they are. They seem pretty durable." And my ST3 Recaros are very good seats, which I've had more than a few people sit in to experience them, but I still will not buy an RS with less than the equivalent seat of the European RS. As wonderful as the Focus RS will be, within two or three years the competition will come close or surpass it in performance, and if you bought your RS for class leading performance, you'll need to upgrade, and quite likely Ford as well as after market companies will provide you with many parts to do so. But they will not provide you with the upgraded Recaros that will allow your insurance company to permit you to switch seats and still insure your car as if it were a car that met government safety standards (the market will not be there for this to take place). If I had to wait a year or two or three for upgraded Recaros meeting government standards and guaranteeing insurability, then I would not be taking my current position on buying an RS with ST Recaro seats. But it is, and I do (take this position).
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Since this is going to be a daily for me I would still prefer the ST seats over the recaro shell seats in the launch car. I think they will be way more comfortable and still hold you in the seat. It would be interesting to see some of these in the car though.
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Neither I nor my wife like leather seating (either auto or household furniture in leather) and she was uncomfortable in ST3 seats almost the moment she sat in them for a test drive. If the RS is released with ST2/ST3 seats then at least we can purchase a set of ST1 seats to use in their place for daily driving and switch out to ST2 seats for the few times I have the RS on the track. The very first comment my wife made when I said we were buying an RS was she hoped they didn't have ST2 or ST3 seats.
With ST1 seats, how are you even staying in them while cornering on track? The ST provides enough lateral grip, even with the goodyears, not even talking race tires, to push hard on the ST2/3 Recaros. I don't even want to think what the RS can do.
Leather or Alcantara for me please. Durable and easy to clean is a good thing. I guess worst case scenario, the US guys can just order up some off the shelf Recaro Sportster CS' For about $1400 a piece.
If you watch the reveal video, towards the end you'll see a lady designer standing in front of a model Focus RS with the shell Recaro seat on the passenger side, and another seat on the driver side. This could be the partial-leather Recaro that we will get.
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I don't get the thought process of NHTSA- "we will forbid Recaro shell seats in this upcoming focus RS in favor of rental car quality seats, I mean it's not like they can buy aftermarket brackets and seats anyways". They did the same crap with the 2015 X, swapped out the magnificent recaros for some lancer seats:
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I'd be surprised if there aren't seating options like in the 2015 mustang.
you can get the base seats which are already pretty sweet, OR you can upgrade to the Recaros.
I definitely need something wider than the ST3 seats, and I would also like an Alcantara choice as well. My leather seats stay hot for hours.
you can get the base seats which are already pretty sweet, OR you can upgrade to the Recaros.
I definitely need something wider than the ST3 seats, and I would also like an Alcantara choice as well. My leather seats stay hot for hours.
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Woah, Woah, the Recaro's were taken out of the Evo X in 2015?? That's insane! To me, it's not an Evo with out the Recaros!
Hell, my 2003 Evo 8 had essentially the Recaro shell seats that are in the new RS.
I'll live if the RS' seats same as the current Focus ST seats and I could live with the Mustang seats as an option as well.
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Yeah and it still costs the same -_-
Depending on the price of the car, I may justify lack of recaros.
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I doubt Ford will disappoint us
BOOSH! Give me a stool and a bicycle helmet if your going to knock $2,500 off of the price tag.
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I think this will be the only thing that I dislike with the RS. I do like my seats in the ST, but I would love a seat one step short from a race seat with a 5 point harness. I'm the type that once I'm in the car I like to stay in the car, whether that is a 2.5 hour mountain run or a 12+ hour sprint back home.
They look like seat covers.
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Given the expected price of the RS, the seats need to have a bit of class compared to what looks like a seat cover bought from Pep Boys.
That was one of the reasons why I went with the ST3 package, because the seats looked more mature without the color in-lays.
That was one of the reasons why I went with the ST3 package, because the seats looked more mature without the color in-lays.
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Maybe we're starting to see a design language for Ford's performance models?
Take a look at the seat on the new Ford Raptor.
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2017 Ford F-150 Raptor In-Depth ? Feature ? Car and Driver
Take a look at the seat on the new Ford Raptor.
2017 Ford F-150 Raptor In-Depth ? Feature ? Car and Driver
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