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Anyone on here have any plans of pushing the platform from the get go. Just want to see who plans on breaking what and then making parts for it. Any guesses on the first thing that breaks?

Ps. I cant wait to get my RS.....coming on this forum is like an addiction and im a fiend.:star::star::star:
 

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If I had two RS's, ide treat one like a cheap hooker and one like an escort.
 

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I'm gonna run it at Sebring until something overheats. Then I'm gonna install a cooler for that and repeat.
 

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Who's going to be the first person to stance one?!
Ugh.
 

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Here's the article:
The 2016 Ford Focus RS Is God In Hatchback Form

And these are the pertinent quotes:

Ford says the RS was designed to handle half an hour of continuous punishment, be that in Drift mode or Track. That sounds reassuring, but when we went out for our first few laps on the track, my car gave me an engine warning message before limiting the revs, while Bill Caswell retired his with an AWD issue. Tyrone Johnson said the diffs can’t overheat, another Ford guy at the pits told us the complete opposite. It seemed fair to believe him instead.

Our second cars worked perfectly fine, but Ford admits that the RS’s Twinster system is pretty close to its limits handling 350 horses and 350 foot pounds already, so in case you’re planning to go aftermarket and increase the power further without beefing up the drivetrain, expect to get some shredded metal with your voided warranty.
 

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Here's the article:
The 2016 Ford Focus RS Is God In Hatchback Form

And these are the pertinent quotes:

Ford says the RS was designed to handle half an hour of continuous punishment, be that in Drift mode or Track. That sounds reassuring, but when we went out for our first few laps on the track, my car gave me an engine warning message before limiting the revs, while Bill Caswell retired his with an AWD issue. Tyrone Johnson said the diffs can’t overheat, another Ford guy at the pits told us the complete opposite. It seemed fair to believe him instead.

Our second cars worked perfectly fine, but Ford admits that the RS’s Twinster system is pretty close to its limits handling 350 horses and 350 foot pounds already, so in case you’re planning to go aftermarket and increase the power further without beefing up the drivetrain, expect to get some shredded metal with your voided warranty.
Tyrone Johnson is right. The RDU doesn't overheat. It shuts off. The end result to the user is the same - some time spent driving a 350hp FWD hatch while things cool down - but there's no damage because the RDU shuts off before it gets hot enough. Also, Máté, the author of the Jalopnik article, says that it comes with an RDU cooler already (first I've heard of this) and that, according to Ford, the RDU is warrantied for life as long as it receives fluid changes when it asks for them.

Also, no idea where the shredded metal quote came from. The system just has a limit to how much torque it can handle before it can't push any harder. Like a regular clutch, if you're forcing more torque through it than it can handle, it just slips. And with clutches that are designed to slip ALL THE TIME, there really isn't a failure mode here. You reach the limit of the RDU, which according to some unnamed GKN engineers is pretty close to 350 torques, and then all of the additional power you make is sent to the front wheels. Because we don't have a center differential. So it's essentially a system where, at the limit, you send 350 ft lbs to the rear wheels and whatever's left goes to the front. That means that you could be making 700 hp and 700 ft lbs with a 50:50 torque split. I really don't see a problem with that.
 

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Now I want to read Caswell's review......
 

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So it's essentially a system where, at the limit, you send 350 ft lbs to the rear wheels and whatever's left goes to the front. That means that you could be making 700 hp and 700 ft lbs with a 50:50 torque split. I really don't see a problem with that.
If the power split is max 70% rear bias, then 350 ft lbs total torque directs 245 to the rear. So, 490 ft lbs total max for a 50:50 split. I'll take it!
 
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