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SPEED PERF6RMANC3 2.5L TopDog Engine - RS Build

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What a journey 😅😂 Lets not talk about the past!

My 2016 RS 15,000 miles now has the 2.5L engine from SP3 and if you want to learn about that engine, you can read about it here. Nishan, Jorge and everyone at the company has been great! 5 Stars. I was originally going to get the 2.3L engine but as I browsed the site I found the 2.5 and then I ended up upgrading to that. Also the folks at XDI have been great too.

What sucks is that I do not have E85 around here. It is not as easily accessible as in the United States so my power level will be lower that what i would otherwise be able to achieve. I am limited by pump gas 91 and WMI. So the engine may be considered overkill but oh well it runs and runs nicely.

Engine:
  • Compression 10:1
  • Sleeved 2L Block
  • Custom Mahle 2618 Pistons 89mm
  • Custom Manley I - BEAMS
  • SP63 625+ Custom 10mm Age Head Studs
  • ARP Main Studs
  • ACL Tri-Metal Rod Bearings
  • ACL Tri-Metal Main Bearings
  • Modified crank w/ Teardrop-shaped cavity
  • Keyed Crank, Timing Gear & Crank Pulley
  • Balance shaft delete Kit
  • Heat Treated In. & Ex. VVT
  • Custom BP285 Piper Cams with Manley 85lbs Valve Springs
  • O ringed cylinder head.

XDI EVO pump : At 200bar of pressure, the EVO pump flows 12% more than the XDI35 and 41% more at 240bar pressure.

XDI injectors : 50% more flow than OEM XDI-i010-50-4

Fuel Injector Technical Data:
  • 50% more flow than OEM
  • OEM 122lb/hr @ 100bar
  • 23g/sec at 100bar, 32.4g/sec at 200bar
  • 2000cc/min at 100bar, 2880cc/min at 200bar
  • 179lb/hr at 100bar, 253lb/hr at 200bar
  • Stable at 200bar even with OEM driver settings, completely linear flow

Quality Control:
  • Every injector flow tested on XDI proprietary DI test bench at
  • 0.8msec/20bar for idle stability
  • 10msec/100bar for static flow reference
  • 6msec/200bar for WOT performance
  • Every set high pressure matched within 1%
  • Every injector type validated for identical SOI and EOI via XDI proprietary injection rate measurement

Other Parts installed:
  • ETS filter and intake
  • ETS Intercooler and Charge pipes
  • Miltek Catless Downpipe Wrapped with Titanium wrap
  • NX2 Turbo with the PTP Turbo Blanket
  • Mountune 3" catback with no valve - V2X
  • Aquiamist Methanol kit
  • OMNI-Power 4 Bar sensor at the intercooler and intake manifold
  • Turbosmart twin port Wastegate [TS-0681-6142]
  • Turbosmart BOV but not vent to atm
  • Xtreme twindisk Clutch
  • LSD Quaife diff
  • Upgraded synchros and steel cage bearings
  • DSC contollor
  • Upr catch can, 100psi checkvalve
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The install went smooth,

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I ran into the issue with the turbo manifold not mating well to the due to a bolt that was disturbing and found a thread about it and did the same and now it is happily seated. The thread is over here. Got some pictures added to it. Came out well.

I then installed the transmission and realized i did not see the centering guides on the block and also realized it was missing for the starter too so i had some fabricated. So i removed the transmission and sorted that out and installed the guides.

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Engine was then dropped in with PTU and transmission bolted to it. I also put on the PTP turbo blanket and wrapped the downpipe with titanium wrap from autozone. Now that the car runs and no weird noises like the Esslinger Engineering engine, it is noticeably cooler under the hood too. I was impressed with heat reduction and more impressed as that means less hot air gets sucked in to the engine.

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I then added the Wire harness and connected everything. Oh, first i wrapped the wire harness with tesla tape 51036. That was some awesome tape made for wire harnesses. Awesome stuff. then I bled the brakes and clutch using the pressure pump and used MOTUL RBF 700 fluid. Used the Orion Motor Tech Brake Pressure Bleeder, they also sell a cap with a 90 degree bend as it would otherwise not fit unless you remove wiper etc. It was super easy to use...

I then had to install the XDI pump and the issue here is the hard tube. I had updated another thread and added pictures their. It turned out great, just need to be patient. I used a new tube and practiced on the old one first lol. Here is the thread.

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While at it i also added the radium catch can drain so i don't have to remove the can every time like before as it is in a tight spot between the battery and the hpfp. Cleaned and oiled air filter, changed the radium fuel filter, added 21oz of AC refrigerant. Also all bolts I torqued to spec and marked them for visual check later if needed.

In February i will need to get a new set of Michelin PS4 tires. Mine have good thread but having been out of service so long and little use they have cracks in rubber but not sidewall. Either way, deserves new tires and i will feel safer when we start tuning.

Also ordered Mishimoto MMODP-12175BBK magnetic oil plug just because i felt like it 😂 and waiting for the dsc controller that a member here sold me and shipped it. Entered customs oops. Was hoping it does not but oh well, we will see what they tell me.

I put the 10-40 Motul Break in oil and had to have it imported as they do not sell it down here I searched and even emailed MOTUL in Mexico and no go. I ran the cams for around 25 minutes between 2,200 rpm to 3,000 rpm to break them in. Now i am in the process of doing the engine break in. Every builder has their way, speed performance have it 1500 miles before tuning and WOT so I will get the miles as fast as i can lol. The first 50 miles i guess are the most important so i did my best accelerating up the gears to 3500 rpm and then engine braking and repeating the process.

Runs good, and i cant wait to red line it when it is time just to hear the sound lol.
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What about that badass engine???

I would say, its still badass. 👍
I hope so! Been eyeballing that 2.5L for my car as well. I want a pumpgas monster.
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What about that badass engine???
This!

Fu%k the radio, we wanna hear the engine!
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What about that badass engine???
i am still on the breakin tune, another 200 Miles.

Also I was no longer in a hurry to put them quick since the tuners direct family member passed away and was told to wait and that it will be worth it.

So, waiting but drives great. For breakin i was told 1000 miles. Also looking at darton sleeves breakin process it is also 1,000 miles
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Glad it's running good after all the nonsense with Esslinger. Looking forward to hear news after the tuning is done.
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Sounding all good looking forward to you finishing your break in.

I did the break in and ran about 1300 miles went for a tune and was told it needs another 1000 as the engine was still tight.

After the extra 1000 the tuner magically added another 27bhp giving at that time 439whp.

So basically you may need additional mileage to loosen the engine
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sorry guys not much to update, I had waited for about 7 weeks to hear from nishan at sp3 but about 2 werks ago... 9 weeks today. I remembered my lifetime tune with Adam. I did 3 revisions, car pulling great at 24psi in 3rd revission. I got some o2 sensor codes that explain some jerky activity between 1k and 2k.

then, last week retina issues that evolved to a retina dettachment and got vitrectomy 4 days ago. it was a macula~on detachment so 🤞

So yea, car will just sit for now.
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Wow I was blueballed for months waiting to see video of this thing ripping. Please take your time, heal up.
On another note, why was nishan taking so long to tune the car??
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Car can definitely wait...take care of those eyeballs. Dude
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@mexrs , your RS is that fast that your eye popped out?!

I am kidding, praying for your "speedy" recovery.
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Really, I‘m sure they want you chill out. Eyes are nothing to mess with!
Hoping you have a speedy recovery!
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Wow I was blueballed for months waiting to see video of this thing ripping. Please take your time, heal up.
On another note, why was nishan taking so long to tune the car??
I was told a close family member had passed away and to be patient and would get tuned once he sorted things out.

@mexrs , your RS is that fast that your eye popped out?!

I am kidding, praying for your "speedy" recovery.
I thought of that too 😆




I did have 2 codes come last week that go when cleared.

p2196 code show but no engine light. "o2 sensor signal biased / stuck rich bank 1 sensor 1" .... cleared it, went away.

p0172 system too rich (bank1) cleared it and its gone.

I was told to replace o2 sensor.. might order to have it ready
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what is the difference?
The top one is the front wide-band for true AFR measurement while the bottom one is the narrow-band simply for monitoring cat output.
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Hope the eyes are all sorted for you sounded painful.

How's the tuning coming along
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Hope the eyes are all sorted for you sounded painful.

How's the tuning coming along
The operation was on April 12 and got retina attached and silicon oil fill lol. I will have it sucked out in September or October the latest.

I have resumen tuning and never changed the o2 sensor although I have it. I believe it was tube related with earlier tuner. it would jerk too much between 1 and 2k rpm and guessing it was fue.related and triggered the code I was getting.

Ryan and pdtuning has tuned so.far, no more codes. runs very smooth 1k to 2k rpm and above. My limitation is 91 oct.

Once we are done on that, we do WMI tune. I also thought of tuning for racegas concentrate additive. RACE GAS | Racing Fuel Concentrate or VPracing brand. If bump to 96oct that would yield nice power.

ALSO got covid 2 weeks ago. I had mainly fever a few days and back to normal. I got worried since I had no vaccine but then all my vaccinated friends got sick too and some worst off. looks like omicron gets everyone who comes in contact with it.

Have not posted Since still tuning but I am happy with it so.far
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The operation was on April 12 and got retina attached and silicon oil fill lol. I will have it sucked out in September or October the latest.

ALSO got covid 2 weeks ago. I had mainly fever a few days and back to normal. I got worried since I had no vaccine but then all my vaccinated friends got sick too and some worst off. looks like omicron gets everyone who comes in contact with it.
Dang, dude, you have been riding a BIG roller coaster for quite a while now, hope your life calms down a bit and you get the RS purring!
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Changed oil and installed this while at it. should be doing wmi tune very soon

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Video of your Baby Beast when able...Thanks
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