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I've just completed my second track day and loving it.
But there are a few things I need to sort out.
I have the Recaro shell seats and notice on hard cornering my body is not supported well and my body is moving just too much.
I was thinking of either a harness to strap me in or padding on the seats to hold me in position.
I like the schroth quick fit pro 4 point harness, but will not sell to anyone outside of the USA.
So what options do I have?

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Surprisingly, the standard Recaro seats have way more side and thigh boltering than the "upgraded" shell seats (I found this out after ordering the same Recaro sportster CS to install into my USDM RS).

I'm surprised there aren't any Schroth dealers in Australia. One option I can think of is getting a seat belt lock of some sort to help since you hips down into the seat. This CG-Lock is one of the more popular ones, but I believe it doesn't quite work with the RS's seat belt buckle.

 

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Too bad!

The Quick Fit Pro is an awesome product. Perhaps you could get a member to forward you one.

I'd do it but I'm in Canada and it may end up costly . . .
That would be great if someone could send one. They are saying that it has only been tested on a USA delivered RS. Same same I'd say. It's only a seat belt.

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Surprisingly, the standard Recaro seats have way more side and thigh boltering than the "upgraded" shell seats (I found this out after ordering the same Recaro sportster CS to install into my USDM RS).

I'm surprised there aren't any Schroth dealers in Australia. One option I can think of is getting a seat belt lock of some sort to help since you hips down into the seat. This CG-Lock is one of the more popular ones, but I believe it doesn't quite work with the RS's seat belt buckle.

Thats not a bad option. Thanks.
I'll try and find out if they fit.

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Thats not a bad option. Thanks.
I'll try and find out if they fit.

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Just my $0.02... I have the Schroth Quickfit in my RS for autocross and track time. It's great. Having used a G-Loc on another car, I don't think it helped much and was bulky/intrusive against my arm, body waist, whatever. In that car, I just twist the buckle/clasp before inserting into the female end to achieve the same effect.

Without a harness, I feel kind of naked... even in the sweet Recaros. With it, I consider the $260 expense money very well spent.
 

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Just my $0.02... I have the Schroth Ralley4 in my RS for autocross and track time. It's great. Having used a G-Loc on another car, I don't think it helped much and was bulky/intrusive against my arm, body waist, whatever. In that car, I just twist the buckle/clasp before inserting into the female end to achieve the same effect.

Without a harness, I feel kind of naked... even in the sweet Recaros. With it, I consider the $260 expense money very well spent.
Where do you attach it in the back?

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Where do you attach it in the back?

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2 points. One is a factory female end. The other is a clip provided by Schroth you/we need to bolt under the seat bench to a factory belt attachment point (same need to add one at the B pillar point anchoring the driver belt).

Really easy to install the two you need.
 

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2 points. One is a factory female end. The other is a clip provided by Schroth you/we need to bolt under the seat bench to a factory belt attachment point (same need to add one at the B pillar point anchoring the driver belt).

Really easy to install the two you need.
Do all the required fittings come with this harness. No need for anything else??

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Schroth don't post out to Australia. Lol

I'll have to find someone else who sells and posts here.

Does this fit both sides or is there a left and right version?

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Schroth don't post out to Australia. Lol

I'll have to find someone else who sells and posts here.

Does this fit both sides or is there a left and right version?
The quick fit/quick fit pro definitely has a LH and RH versions, something to do with the anti submarine mechanism needing to be in the middle.
 

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The quick fit/quick fit pro definitely has a LH and RH versions, something to do with the anti submarine mechanism needing to be in the middle.
Pretty sure that's no longer true, but it couldn't hurt to pay attention just to be safe. Why? How they designed the belts to turn your torso for an anti-submarine effect... they didn't want driver and passenger turning toward each other.
 

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Only way to safely use a complete harness is having a cage to mount to or using a dedicated harness bar like this

https://www.steeda.com/Agency-Power-Focus-Bolt-In-Racing-Harness-Bar-13-17-ST-16-17-RS_p_12925.html

This is why the Schroth is such a great option. Perhaps you can find a decent used one on the forum, FB or eBay?
Ive heard others talk about the dangers of using the quick fit pro. Any thoughts on it? Been also thinking about getting one but I'm very torn
 

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Ive heard others talk about the dangers of using the quick fit pro. Any thoughts on it? Been also thinking about getting one but I'm very torn
I think a lot of the "dangers" I've heard others voice is the use of regular harnesses and bolting them to the floor etc (which you should never do). The quick fit pro uses the existing seat belt mounts and has been crash tested, so I'm fully confident in it. There are quite a few of us track guys that use the set-up. None of us have gotten into a serious crash (just the regular off fortunately) so none of can really attest to it's "safety".

I my self use the quick fit pro for my track days. I actually had installed the shell seats (bought a recaro Sportster CS) but had reverted back to the stock seat since that is what Schroth tested to.
 

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Pretty sure that's no longer true, but it couldn't hurt to pay attention just to be safe. Why? How they designed the belts to turn your torso for an anti-submarine effect... they didn't want driver and passenger turning toward each other.
Quick look at the Schroth website still shows a separate "driver" and "passenger" specific harness for quick fit/pro. You can see on their posted pics how the anti sub mechanism is situated.
 

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There are Schroth dealers in Australia btw.... https://performanceracegear.com.au/product/p1-dealers-australia/ ..... Race Harness
Interestingly when I first took my RS on the track a couple of years ago, I also noticed that the seats weren't holding me as much as I thought they would....I had identical seats in my previuos Mk2 RS and they were fine on the track, so I can only conclude that the MK3 ones are a touch wider. However, when I tracked it recently, I did the old tighten the seatbelt trick before going out and it was fine. Certainly a race harness will solve your problems but I don't like the look of the setup posted above by BigFatFlip....the angle is not right and in the case of a crash those harnesses will pull down on your shoulders too much. If using a race harness they should be mounted as close to horizontal to the back mount as possible. This could be achieved using a harness bar mounted behind the seat or a bar between the rear strut towers.
Check out these guys for harness bars...they are pretty helpful ... https://jdmaccessories.com.au/product/21383/
And these guys do various harnesses at reasonable prices... Harnesses | Autosport - Specialists in all things motorsport
The advantage of a harness bar setup is that it allows you to also wear a Hans device.
 
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