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Thanks! If you need parts in Canada try Raptor Racing, they are in Ontario and have access to a ton of large companies for our platform. Tell them Dylan sent ya! I am a member of the Toronto RS Nation, one of their American brothers. If you ever end up in Ontario hit up Toronto RS Nation on facebook and see what they have going on.
Haha its me James with the SG! You’re our US hookup :p
Have a good day bro, you coming to the August track day?


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Love it! Man, I thought my tires sort ng around was bad enough, this makes waiting for mine even more painful.

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw your wheels on Braids Instagram feed, which very quickly prompted me to email Paul about the latest shipment lol.
Out of curiosity, do those center caps come with the wheels or were they extra?
 

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Finally got my Braids after 6 mos of waiting. Gotta say, it was painful, but was well worth the wait.

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Few things:
  • Paul of Team Illuminata motorsports/Braid USA was a total pleasure to work with. Great customer service and graciously replied every month I bugged him for status
  • Wheel quality was excellent, although I do have one little niggle: The rear hub face and the lug nut seats appear to be machined after powder coating, leaving exposed bare metal (or at least it looks like it). Not a huge deal, and I'm sure that is what makes them "custom" compared to an off-the-shelf wheel, but it just looks unfinished to me. I left it as is since it will all be covered in brake dust anyway.
  • Owning white wheels before (RIP OZ Rallyracings), I've decided to get these opticoated locally from the get go. We'll see how well they do.
  • The fit and clearance with this wheel is probably the best you'd get from all the existing 17" options. When I took it to the tire shop to get it mounted and balanced, I specifically mentioned not to place any wheel weights on the inside, thinking there's no way I have enough clearance for the brakes. Of course, the genius at the tire machine went ahead and placed weights anyway, which I didn't notice until I got home (not to mention scratching the inside barrel of the wheels). I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a good 1/8" (~2-3mm) of clearance between the weights and the front calipers (see pics).
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  • Center caps & "BRAID" decal: I asked about it earlier, but this particular wheel can be machined to accommodate center caps, so make sure to specify that when ordering. The wheels typically come without the "BRAID" logo, but it is just a decal, so you can specify any color you want and they will toss in a few along with your order. I kinda wished I asked for 2ea since it looks a little "uneven" with just one per.
  • Ride comfort: I paired this wheel with 245/45-17 Michelin PS4Ss, fully intending to do daily driving and canyon carving on these. I also have a pretty epic 300mi road rally coming up that this will be used for. I intentionally drove over some gnarly pot holes, freeway cracks and decent bumps on my way to work this morning and boy, does the added sidewall help! Combined with the Litchfield KWs, this car now rides like a 5-series!
One thing I am wondering from others who have gone to 17's: Would the spec tire pressure be different compared to the OEM spec of 41/38 psi F/R? I ask because I had pumped them to the mentioned pressure and they still look a little soft to me.

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This set-up is basically the Arby's of wheel & tire combos! "WE HAVE THE MEATS!"
 

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Finally got my Braids after 6 mos of waiting. Gotta say, it was painful, but was well worth the wait.

View attachment 335314

Few things:
  • Paul of Team Illuminata motorsports/Braid USA was a total pleasure to work with. Great customer service and graciously replied every month I bugged him for status
  • Wheel quality was excellent, although I do have one little niggle: The rear hub face and the lug nut seats appear to be machined after powder coating, leaving exposed bare metal (or at least it looks like it). Not a huge deal, and I'm sure that is what makes them "custom" compared to an off-the-shelf wheel, but it just looks unfinished to me. I left it as is since it will all be covered in brake dust anyway.
  • Owning white wheels before (RIP OZ Rallyracings), I've decided to get these opticoated locally from the get go. We'll see how well they do.
  • The fit and clearance with this wheel is probably the best you'd get from all the existing 17" options. When I took it to the tire shop to get it mounted and balanced, I specifically mentioned not to place any wheel weights on the inside, thinking there's no way I have enough clearance for the brakes. Of course, the genius at the tire machine went ahead and placed weights anyway, which I didn't notice until I got home (not to mention scratching the inside barrel of the wheels). I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a good 1/8" (~2-3mm) of clearance between the weights and the front calipers (see pics).
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  • Center caps & "BRAID" decal: I asked about it earlier, but this particular wheel can be machined to accommodate center caps, so make sure to specify that when ordering. The wheels typically come without the "BRAID" logo, but it is just a decal, so you can specify any color you want and they will toss in a few along with your order. I kinda wished I asked for 2ea since it looks a little "uneven" with just one per.
  • Ride comfort: I paired this wheel with 245/45-17 Michelin PS4Ss, fully intending to do daily driving and canyon carving on these. I also have a pretty epic 300mi road rally coming up that this will be used for. I intentionally drove over some gnarly pot holes, freeway cracks and decent bumps on my way to work this morning and boy, does the added sidewall help! Combined with the Litchfield KWs, this car now rides like a 5-series!
One thing I am wondering from others who have gone to 17's: Would the spec tire pressure be different compared to the OEM spec of 41/38 psi F/R? I ask because I had pumped them to the mentioned pressure and they still look a little soft to me.

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This set-up is basically the Arby's of wheel & tire combos! "WE HAVE THE MEATS!"
Looks awesome!! Saw DTNY8’s setup this weekend at the track on flaken’s and I must say its sexy



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Looks awesome!! Saw DTNY8’s setup this weekend at the track on falken’s and I must say its sexy



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They were so great, gripped when i wanted, and still able to put it in drift mode and slide a few turns on cool down laps ? Could not be happier, the bouncing I would get with the 19" wheels with the dampers On was reduced. The car is much more smooth, on and off track.
 

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  • Wheel quality was excellent, although I do have one little niggle: The rear hub face and the lug nut seats appear to be machined after powder coating, leaving exposed bare metal (or at least it looks like it). Not a huge deal, and I'm sure that is what makes them "custom" compared to an off-the-shelf wheel, but it just looks unfinished to me. I left it as is since it will all be covered in brake dust anyway.”
This is the way the wheels are suppose to be. Any dirt, corrosion, paint, powder coat etc between wheel and hub mating surfaces can cause joint settling, and in severe cases effect the clamping force between them causing a wheel off situation. That’s why all mating surfaces should be thoroughly brushed clean prior to installation
 

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This is the way the wheels are suppose to be. Any dirt, corrosion, paint, powder coat etc between wheel and hub mating surfaces can cause joint settling, and in severe cases effect the clamping force between them causing a wheel off situation. That’s why all mating surfaces should be thoroughly brushed clean prior to installation
Ah, I figured there was a reason for it. Like I said, minor niggle on aesthetics (mostly due to my vanity lol). Very happy with it!

I know you've jumped down quite a few sizes down on wheel/tire size, do you have any input on tire pressures? Do I need to bump up the tire pressures compared to the spec'd 41/38 psi?

I haven't found anything researching on-line and tried math-ing my self out of it, but could not otherwise convince myself one way or the other.
 

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@BigFatFlip i think it all will depend on your tire choice. The ps4s is a good tire with a fairly stiff sidewall. I’d say pump them up to the factory 46 for a day or two, then drop them back down.

Although I’m running 215/65r16 they are ko2’s which are horribly stiff. I ran them for a few days at 46psi and it was unbearable. Air down to 35 and it was amazing. Raised it to 40/40 to keep the tpms light off and is noticeably worse than 35. But the light will drive me nuts
 

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Guys, where dk you order the Braid wheels from? And how much?
Not sure about Oz, but I bought mine thru Braid USA/Team Illuminata. I know they also ship to Canada, but not sure about any other countries.

Perhaps try searching for the Australian Braid dealer? Found these guys after a quick google:

 

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Thanks. With custom items like this (as in - not usual stock items) it often is better/cheaper to order directly from the manufacturer. A lot of the local resellers are often just "flippers" and dont offer much other than adding to the price. Sometimes if they order in bulk it can save on shipping costs though.

I will see if someone local can source them. What is the offset of the 17x8 that works with the brembos?
 

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Thanks. With custom items like this (as in - not usual stock items) it often is better/cheaper to order directly from the manufacturer. A lot of the local resellers are often just "flippers" and dont offer much other than adding to the price. Sometimes if they order in bulk it can save on shipping costs though.

I will see if someone local can source them. What is the offset of the 17x8 that works with the brembos?
It looks like you can actually order directly from Braid: https://www.braid.es/wheels/pedido.html

The main thing was shipping I believe. Braid USA told me that they only order every quarter to save on shipping. They do one large bulk shipment every quarter to 6 mos instead, which was why mine took so long.

Regarding specs, its at the very first post on this thread I believe (off the top of my head, I think its +40)
 

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@tedsRS Thank you for the kind words. I barely made it through the long summer sans RS, but picked up NB RS #2 and I'm back!



You don’t know it yet, but you just made a friend. A crazy one though, hope you’re ready.



Me! Not sure if I’ve posted this yet, but slipped my tire guy some cash to test fit a 215/60R17 (27.2D) and it fit... easily. Then I tried what I thought certainly wouldn't fit: 215/65R17 (28" diameter or 1.25" increase in radius) and it fit just fine with no rubbing at all. Well maybe going over bumps on rough rocky mountain gravel roads, but my wheel liners never last more than a month anyway. Normal people will probably keep theirs. I haven't read anything on here in ~6 months so that might be old news, but it was goddamn impressive to me. I can say with confidence that you won’t want to go more than that without a lift. Pro tip: make a relationship with the closest shop and pay cash, they’ll do all sorts of unorthodox things for the crazy rally guy and you’ll get a free test fitting center.



My 15x7 14.1 lb Braid Fullrace Maxlites were ordered a month ago and due in a couple days. Spoke to Mike Johnson at Rebel Devil Customs and Team O’neil and got their setup which I’ll copy. Sorry I was RS-less and out of commission the past six months, could’ve answered all your questions right away. Oh and if anyone wants some brand new 19" forged wheels and tires let me know, otherwise they'll probably sit in my basement like the other 28 wheels/tires (and growng) for years.

Have we started a 15” wheel thread yet? Alright, I'll do it. I know there's at least one and likely more that have put them on.

Before I leave my 17" brethren, quick story on my 17” Braids from my old RS: after it was totalled, the tow trucks would not pick the car up for weeks due to the snow and incompetence. So I had a buddy tow it 3.2 miles on a rough gravel road with two of the tires flat, by the end one tire had completely come off and the other was barely hanging on. At that point wasn’t thinking about future use, just had to stop pissing the police off as it was a safety issue still on a narrow icy mountain road. When I got the new RS I went to put them on, forgetting all about that. Noticed they got chipped up nicely, but not even bent. Perfect balance.. these things are damn tough.



I typed that out before I saw your last question, pretty sure we’re doppelgängers now (was gonna go with soul mates but didn’t wanna freak the board rook out too much). To answer your question, definitely. Paul owes me a favor after I generated a bunch of business for him from the STI guys and here - then my order got royally screwed up - so if you’re going to go that direction shoot me a message. I started teaching myself suspension geometry - king pin/scrub radius, enough to be dangerous but still a lot to learn - so as not to screw up the glorious handling like so many others messing suspension geometries that millions of R&D had been spent on. The downside is some degradation of the epic braking, but we'll mitigate that as much as possible with direction from RDC & TON - I've never downsized before, but couldn't have better guides. The upside is all that splendiferous sidewall (I seriously may be starting to lose it). We’ll get the offset to the exact millimeter in the forthcoming 15” rally wheel thread.

Damn it’s good to be back!
I'm in australia and want to get 17 inch rims. Aim is to get reasonable gravel and a bit of snow performance, plus best tarmac performance while keeping the limited gravel and snow capability. Thinking falken wildpeak ht 325 60 17 which gives 28.1 inch diameter. Seeing falken recommend 6.5 inch rims id probably run 7 inch, but not sure.

It's really hard over here they only want to sell high performance summer road tyres. I've driven the rs quite hard on dirt on the standard Michelin sports and kept wondering when it was going to gravel aquaplane and not dig in... and spit me off the road.

Will these fit? Does it matter if I remove the wheel arch liners. Also, if anyone has better suggestions please let me know. This is a great thread guys, Thanks for your help.
 

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Did you mean 225? I think +40 is the optimal offset for our car. As far as width, my preference is an 8" wheel as I don't intend on ever going thinner than a 225 and could still fit a 245 or even 255 track tire if I had to. But if this is for a dedicated tall gravel tire, then you may be on the right track with the smaller wheel. You may run into some offset/brake clearance issues with the skinnier wheel though. Read this thread carefully.

I went with a 17x8 +40 from braid and very happy with my 235/40 blizzaks.
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I've gone back to 17 by 8 with 42 offset. I am getting them made by koya wheels in Australia. They are the semi forged sf02 model. Cost approx $400 aus each .
I'm hoping pirelli scorpion atr 225 x 60 will fit.
 

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Finally got my Braids after 6 mos of waiting. Gotta say, it was painful, but was well worth the wait.

View attachment 335314

Few things:
  • Paul of Team Illuminata motorsports/Braid USA was a total pleasure to work with. Great customer service and graciously replied every month I bugged him for status
  • Wheel quality was excellent, although I do have one little niggle: The rear hub face and the lug nut seats appear to be machined after powder coating, leaving exposed bare metal (or at least it looks like it). Not a huge deal, and I'm sure that is what makes them "custom" compared to an off-the-shelf wheel, but it just looks unfinished to me. I left it as is since it will all be covered in brake dust anyway.
  • Owning white wheels before (RIP OZ Rallyracings), I've decided to get these opticoated locally from the get go. We'll see how well they do.
  • The fit and clearance with this wheel is probably the best you'd get from all the existing 17" options. When I took it to the tire shop to get it mounted and balanced, I specifically mentioned not to place any wheel weights on the inside, thinking there's no way I have enough clearance for the brakes. Of course, the genius at the tire machine went ahead and placed weights anyway, which I didn't notice until I got home (not to mention scratching the inside barrel of the wheels). I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a good 1/8" (~2-3mm) of clearance between the weights and the front calipers (see pics).
View attachment 335315

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  • Center caps & "BRAID" decal: I asked about it earlier, but this particular wheel can be machined to accommodate center caps, so make sure to specify that when ordering. The wheels typically come without the "BRAID" logo, but it is just a decal, so you can specify any color you want and they will toss in a few along with your order. I kinda wished I asked for 2ea since it looks a little "uneven" with just one per.
  • Ride comfort: I paired this wheel with 245/45-17 Michelin PS4Ss, fully intending to do daily driving and canyon carving on these. I also have a pretty epic 300mi road rally coming up that this will be used for. I intentionally drove over some gnarly pot holes, freeway cracks and decent bumps on my way to work this morning and boy, does the added sidewall help! Combined with the Litchfield KWs, this car now rides like a 5-series!
One thing I am wondering from others who have gone to 17's: Would the spec tire pressure be different compared to the OEM spec of 41/38 psi F/R? I ask because I had pumped them to the mentioned pressure and they still look a little soft to me.

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This set-up is basically the Arby's of wheel & tire combos! "WE HAVE THE MEATS!"
What was the exact wheel size, width and offset?
 

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Koya wheels SF02 17 inch x 8 inch, offset 42. Koya specialise on custom race wheels. Worth looking up.

They custom machine the wheel. This clears brakes by 4mm and pushes the wheel out 8mm over standard focus rs wheel with 19x8 with 50 offset. To get the 42 offset they have to centre bore all the wsy through at 63.4mm meaning there standard centre cap doesn't fit. A small price to pay. I will get their standard centre cap and see off I can may be wrap in black electrical tape and push fit it or do something. A minor issue.

The Pirelli scorpion atr 225 60 17 is the tyre I am aiming for. Doing trial fitment next week hopefully. If they don't quite fit I am prepared to do minor clearance mods
 
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