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Hi Ladys and Gents, I'm having Problems with my Focus RS 2017. With hard acceleration the AWD System ist cuttin off. Also no drive modes. And it's not happening everytime. New PTU + RTU. I did buy a new PTU and RTU fur small money but the RTU whithout the Module so I put the old module. The old RTU had some mechanical issues and also from time to time cutted of the AWD as well. But anyway - Iv'e scaned the car and diagnostics say that there is a Problem with the AWD Module. To be precise it's showing a code: U3000:92-2C. So I ordered a now module from ford. The price is not so high. So my question is: does someone know is it possible to change the module whidout taking the RDU out ? I usualy do what I can muself by every my car, (as I changed the RTU and PTU myself). Other thing is: does it need programing of flashing ? I want preserve this car becouse I love a fast Ford :) thx in advance for help. The guys from ford service don't know much about this car so it's better to hear from you all :)
 

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Well I was thinking maybe not the same lines but something like that. The Problem is that I changed the RDU just becouse we were feeling some knokin noise on the axle asembly, and i got o brand new one but there was no module :) I got in touch with a Ford service here in Poland and they said: the new module will be "empty" and it has to be calibrated. But we are not able to make this becouse the car is from USA. And this has to be made online. ControlNode any good thougts ? Maybe some tips. It's not that this happens evertime I drive the car but I want to have everything as ist should be :) Now i will have a brand new module, so there must be some way to get this together ?! or maybe just calibrating may old module with the new mechanical RDU will be enought ? As i Said the problem is not constant. And in my opinion something thats broken cant work or nor work at the same time :)
 

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Well I bought the new RDU not from Ford direclty, but through a second hand dealer. I know that Ford sell this as a set, but it would be very strange to not be able to make this work. Also the conector from RDU has only few pins, and i realy don't think so that the component would not work regardles a old controller. But i read here also something about the contrellers needing an update from Ford. Tomorrow i will se someone that made mi some things like language change, Sync update, Euro speck radio etc. and he said he can try to make a calibration as long as the components have good conection (nor rusty plugs...) he recons it's possible. It cant be so complicated, and as I said everyhing is working - the problem is from time to time. I took out the component from my old RTU where you put the conector, and this seems only as a elektromotor with a small schaft on the end. I think this operates the clutch in the RTU. It would be very stupid fot this to work in a other way so maybe it will be easy to calibrate or update. Any other ideas ?
 

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Well the only thing coming to mind In reading this info is that this happens when I really give it full throttle 1-2 gears. But from 3-6 this does not happen. This can also be the overheating issue. But there is also one thing. This was happening also with the old RTU. Not so often, but happened few times after starting the car - not driving. All abs sensors are clean, two of them are new (front). Is possible for wrong fluid? I used full synthetic Mobile 1 75W85. I'm having a very funny gremlin here :):):)
 

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There is also one thing that wonders me- you can buy a brand new RTU with the AWD module. No big deal. So if you just swap a old unit for new, connect plugs the system will not work? How the hell it's calibrated.... If so this will be very very stupid and I really doubt that. But maybe you have other opinion 😜now I have a new module and and I really doubt that there is nothing there...
 

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Yep, I did. So every module is preprogrammed to a new RTU. Ok so i have a new RTU and I will have a new module. So if they sell a new mode separately it has to be preprogrammed as well. It's very very strange all of this. I'm confused what to do right now.
 

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Well there is nothing that you can do incorrectly replacing the RTU. Every bushmecanic is able to do that. There is a gremlin somewhere. Actually I drove the car now. Hit the throttle cue of times and went through the gears nothin happened Al normal. Stoped on the lights and started slow and it popped up...AWD and drive modes off....
 

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Yeahh i mean mecanicly there is nothing wrong. I will try to make the calibration. If not I have a brand new RTU with module for good price. But I think this can be done with what I have.
 

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Well don't be jealous my love. Our service in Poland will not Service this car becouse i imported this from USA. This is the main problem. I mentioned this many times in this post. We are actually talking about a very special and fast car. But bespoke parts.... I don't think so.
 

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Hi guys, and girls as well. I think the problem is solved. I did a adaptation of the old module today with Ford IDS online connection. As for now the car didn't show any problems. The guy that did this didn't take payment and told me Toruń the car for a week. If this will not come back a pay him. As becouse this was his first attempt I this car. But said that there are many things possible to do if for example this comes back.
 

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And; the most stupid thing of all in this case is the Ford dealership. I canceled the order for a new RTU module and they were very angry, but when questioning why I want to cancel the order I said; well ok, I buy this from you but you can't adapt it to my car as you don't service cars imported from America...the manager said well ok then and good bye. This is so stupid... Well done Ford.
 

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Actually, if we speak about for example the RTU module there is only one part number, and that's it. There is no EU or US speck. Regarding differences; tail fog lights, orange indicators, no suspension sensors for hid xenon headlights, in some cases orange day running lights, radio frequency differences and that's about it. Of course Speedo in miles not kilometres. Oh and the famous garage door opener button. There are really that many differences. Regarding IDS it's not the case that they support it. You can buy a IDS tool with online support and do this yourself, so this is not the reason why they don't support it. For example in Germany there is no problem in doing this in every ford dealership. When I ordered a sensor in another ford dealership (2km) from my home they could se the vin number from my car, and it actually showed a lot of stuff...so the case of them not willing to do this lies somewhere else.
 

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Yeah you're right. But it's a ford. It's as complicated as a bag of nails...at least they could say; yeah, we can try or something. If you give them the car to change the brake pads they will do this, because that's basic mechanics....but God now, if they need to plug it in and make some modes, codes say to the costumer please go for a drive, go through the gears and this will adapt...but as I said the problem is here in Poland. If you go to Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia....for God sake
...even Hungary they will make what you need and want....
 

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Hey there. Well thx for the tips. For now it the problem comes back I will just take the module out becouse it could by demaged. But for now all is working fine. I'll keep you all posted.
 

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Ohhh and also. If this problem does com back I'm betting on the module. To be precise the connector that goes from the module to the diff but inside the module. This module is getting very much vibrations so you don't have to know quantum physics to crack this gremlin. The whealberings front and Back are brand new, ordered in Germany original ford parts. The abs sensor front are also new, maybe I change also the back - it's not so expensive. Also I've cleaned the connector in the right back corner (this goes to the front of the car) but it was ok anyway. But as I said the problem is gone for now. I will be not driving the car in winter so let's see:)
 

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Hi there. So the Problem came back. Not so many times but it came back. I did i think 400km from my last post. And it maybe came back 4 tomes. But anyway: the guy that did the adaptation online said that we should stick to the oryginal code - this says Controle Module error. So (becouse i don't belive in Ford beeing so complicated) i did get a random module for about 30% off new price (used). I swaped the module and all is good. And i think better as it was. The car has no rear hasitation when accelerating. I can tell you - it took 3 hours to take the old module out, and instaling the new one. The screws are unbeliveble ! with glue ! I was thinking half way taht this can't be done without taking the dif and suspention out. But went well. I already did ca. 250km and nothing, all i well. No adaptation, no codes no nonsense. Swaped and works. The numbers on the modules were not the seme, only one was.
 

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So in my opininion: Great car, not complicated as some said (you have to code and many other stuff). The only thing stupid for me is that the module is in open area of the car, there ist heat, wibrations, dirt, water all can come in. I also fited the new module on rubber waschers, becouse it's just bolted metal to metal...Other things: well the big connector has only 5 pins connected, two of them is power supply. So I don't think this is getting many information ftom the car, I think ABS, TC and maybe steering angle. However the connector that sends stuff to the diff has many many pins so you dont't have to know quantum physics to understand that the magic happens in the module. Anyway i will get the old module fixed and keep just in case. And i susspect that the modules are foulty or just in the wrong place of the car. This schould be in the trunk nice and warm. As The RS is still not old i think this can help other users becouse for sure this will come up more often. Let me know what you think.
 

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Ohh and one other thing that I think will not be true: Well i don't think that if you buy a new module from Ford this will be (as they said) empty. There is no VIN identification in this module. I give it: 85% not true. In my opinion this will be ready to install and go. I had an F-150 5.0 and there was a ABS Problem. The code was for ABS Module Error. I swaped the whole ABS Pump with Module (from 4 numbers on the Part only one was the same) but the used part was also from the F-150 the same year 2014. And all was well. One thing that had to be done electrical was the brake fluid venting. Im normaly very stubborn guy, and I don't belive in good and honest service in the dealership.
 

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Well from that what I've done in this case and fixed it by only swaping the module I would disagree in this. Maybe not that I disagree, more that I don't believe it. For this to by logical you need way more electronics (like pagiani Huayra with active areo etc) than in a hot hatch Ford. Not that it's not clever, but it's pretty basic. This kind of diff was already in Mazda MPS, like the engine. So really nothing New. Just bits that were in the factory.
 
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