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Hello my fellows!

I think this might be the most appropriate place to post this? (If this has been discussed at length somewhere, as it seems it has not, please forgive me for my clumsiness).

So... I have never used a radar detector. I try to drive smart and aware, and it has worked for me over the years. I haven't roused the suspicion of the authorities for about 10 years (I used to drive like a hooligan my my 02 Trans Am WS6 with close to 400rwhp but after I got rid of that I have kept my nose pretty clean). I recently got rid of my supercharged Toyota Tacoma, and I never had any police attention in that truck. I'll be 30 and married this year. BUT... now I am stepping into an RS... a hot whip unlike anything I have owned. And my RS is scheduled for build in 3 weeks. I don't plan on driving like an asshole around town and on the free-way commute, I really don't. but lets be real. We all gotta be able to hop on it once or twice on a wide open 3 lane freeway. I am thinking a little extra protection might be in good order?? Ya'll feel me? haha

So I have been toying with the idea of getting a solid radar detector. What are your thoughts? How many of you use them or recommend them?

What types do you recommend? I don't plan on using jamming technology that is illegal. I would be comfortable spending 500 to 600 scoots, easy, on something that works well. One criterion: I definitely would want something that has police radar-detector detector invisibility. Cops in PA, my entire experience, is that they won't touch you if you are less than 15 over. (14 is prob pushing it though). But if I am cruising at 75 in a 65 and they detect a radar detector, I bet they might just pull me over when they would not have otherwise.

So please share your thoughts and expertise my friends. Thanks!
 

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A lot of radar detectors are passive, they don't emit anything and are undetectable. All you really need to worry about is them seeing it above the dash. Also I would check your local laws about jammers.. They're actually legal in most states.

I have an Escort Passport 9500ix in my trunk (just storing it there obviously, normally it goes on the windscreen), but I haven't used it in quite a while since Virginia *is* one of the only states where even a radar detector is illegal (sometimes I'll put it up when I cross over into Maryland on my way to drill).

I used it a lot in Arizona, though, and it was fairly useful. You can't rely on them at night or when you're the only car around as some police use instant-on radar systems, so you won't get any warning until they flip it on and get your speed before you have enough warning to slow down. The first time I experienced this I was only doing 69 in a 65, but the detector wasnt registering anything and then instantly went to a full signal about 2 seconds before my headlights lit up a couple of police cars in the median. Had I been speeding enough to get pulled over they would've had me easily.

Also on tight mountain roads you might not get a warning until you round a bend and have decent line of sight to where the cop is. If there a lot of trees/hills you might not get a warning until he already has you. I experienced this as well on 89S leaving Prescott, AZ. I was going pretty hard down the mountain, and had to slow to ~40 for a really tight corner (speed limit was 35).. About halfway around the bend my detector went off not even a second before I met a cop going the other way. Both our windows were open, so I know he definitely heard my engine at 6000 RPM in second gear getting ready to punch it down the next straight, and he probably heard my detector beeping since the volume was way up XD If he had been around that corner just a little sooner he would've caught me at more like 60 braking hard into the corner before I ever knew he was there.

A detector is most effective when there is very light traffic on a freeway or other straight-ish road. They'll usually ping the cars in front of you as they go by, so if the cop is hiding behind an overpass pillar you can get blips as they ping the cars in front of you. If you're the only car on the road you never really know for sure until you can *see* that there's nowhere for a cop to hide. (I liked that about 89S in Arizona... You might not see a cop coming the other way, but there wasnt a good spot for them to pull off and set up a speed trap for miles.

One of the nice things about the 9500ix is that it has GPS and a database of known speed cameras, so you'll get a warning when you're approaching a known camera location. It has a laser detector as well, but I've never found that useful... If it's going off, they've already clocked you.

Really the best way to avoid a ticket is to avoid speeding during commuting hours, close to schools, close to speed limit boundaries, on main roads, or just anywhere there might be a good spot for a speed trap.

What EagerRS is talking about is probably the most useful, since it has more recent information about speed traps than a non-networked detector can give you.
 

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Thanks for that input EagerRS and your detailed response Sabaoth.

It appears jammers might be legal in PA. I'll look into it more and also consult with my friend who is a PA lawyer. It looks like there are jammers that work on all radar or just laser? I don't think they would work on enradd. However, wouldn't the risk with jammers be that if the cop can figure out that it is me with the jammer, which I think would be easy if I'm not currently in traffic with several other vehicles, they could pull me over and hassle me etc?

It seems like the community app would be great... It appears it would include alerts to speed traps using ENRADD, especially on the local roads? In PA, local police are only allowed to use ENRADD. So a radar detector is useless anywhere but on the major highways where the state police patrol.
 
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