[crepr12]

Not 60K...GLWS

 

[big jim]

i think in 6 or 7 years you might be able to get $60k...as the focus is no longer available in the US.
right meow, i'd guess $48-49k

 

[20focusstdriver17]

Its worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, with that said i would offer you $45k for it right now. If you take it to an auction you may be able to get a few collectors with money to burn to bid it up.

 

[18NBRS]

Not even 50K? Most used 18s going for well over $40K. So the practically new one is only worth a couple of grand more?
The slick top doesn't count?

 

[18NBRS]

Its worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, with that said i would offer you $45k for it right now. If you take it to an auction you may be able to get a few collectors with money to burn to bid it up.

Do you have $45K in cash to jump on it or do you need to get a loan for the amount?
If you have cash and ready to jump on it, let me know.

 

[18NBRS]

What would be the quickest and easiest way to sell this?
I travel often and have a very little time to entertain tire kickers.
My time is more valuable.
What do you recommend?

 

[Sparvy]

What would be the quickest and easiest way to sell this?
I travel often and have a very little time to entertain tire kickers.
My time is more valuable.
What do you recommend?

No moon roof on an 18? I thought they all were loaded cars in 18!

 

[hyracer]

I also think $48K would be around the max unless you want to sit on it for a long time.
If you don't want to deal with selling the car, look for a Dealer who will sell it on consignment.
We sold our 2001 Chev Silverado on consignment this past summer after about 6 weeks. We were traveling and didn't have time to show it.

 

[CPMaverick]

I have a 2018.NB RS without sunroof and it took me way too long to figure out what you meant by slick top

I'm also less than 100 miles from you... What are the odds?

Anyway, ultra low mileage cars are a tricky sale. If someone is paying $60k for this car, then they think the ultra low miles are worth a 15-20k premium. That means they won't be planning to drive the car, aka buying it for a collection. There are people out there like this but probably not on an RS forum. Limited customer base but probably your best bet for 'big money'. You could list the car on BAT (Bring a Trailer) or at a big auction house like Mecum or Barrett-Jackson to try and find these buyers.

Otherwise you are targeting people who want to drive the car. They are probably unlikely to spend more than a 5-7k premium for the low miles. Lots more potential customers though.

I think the car should sell easily for ~$45k but could go for a lot more, to the right buyer, but might take some time.

I much prefer the no sunroof cars and they are rare, but I'm not sure how value it really adds.

 

[scarletrose]

The car is 5 years old (meaning not quite a collectible) and still comparable performance wise to what's on the market. Golf Rs, GR Corollas, and Type Rs (lotsa Rs lol) start at around $50k with dealer mark up and top out at $65k in Cali but do they reach that in Georgia? The rarity is obviously a plus but it's just not old enough yet to be a collectible. I'd say $60k-$65k is right during a squeeze in a high cost market but in the most expensive market in GA (I'm assuming is Atlanta), these cars are going at the higher end for $50k-$60k. I think the previous poster had it right, no one on this forum paid anywhere near that for our cars and probably won't now. Your best bet is an auction site or broker in a high cost market if you want that price, and then you need to watch out for fees. Also the car and housing markets overall are taking a dive because of interest rates so it's not the best time to sell. If you wait another 5-10 years you'll probably be nearing the depreciation dip, (which assumes high availability of cars overall. Might not be the case for this generation of cars) and another 20 years with inflation the car will probably be worth around ~$100k if not more. Hope that helps.

Forgot to add, if you can get a Ford Performance branded drift stick I think you significantly increase the rarity and may get a few thousand more.

 

[CPMaverick]

Cars are never too new to be collectable. If it has 135 miles on it, it's already been a collectable since it was new, and people buy new cars to collect and store regularly (they just aren't regular people!).

I get what you mean that it's new-ish and new alternatives are on the market... But especially given that RS production is over this car is definitely collectable.

What it's worth this early, is the more difficult question! I totally agree it's likely to appreciate with time, and this is an awkward time to sell a car like this to a collector.

 

[scarletrose]

I think you're right about collectible status but there are quite a few unknowns here. I define a collectible as something that only increases in value (as opposed to price). I'm not sure we've gotten through the depreciation curve for the car, if this car will have a typical depreciation curve, or whether depreciation curves still work the same way given the low volume/supply on the market. Comparable alternatives on the market severely harm the value because you can get a similar experience from a newer more readily available car. The fact that so many of these are still around and at a lower price also harms the value.

I agree some cars are collectible from new and I think we can both name some, I'm just not sure this is one of them. I think with a bit of time it's a future classic.

 

[CPMaverick]

The accepted definition of 'collectable' is anything that people buy to collect (rather than use for the intended purpose of the object). The items don't necessarily need to have any intrinsic value. Sounds like you are talking about something that's investable rather than just collectable.

I don't see how any vehicle is guaranteed to appreciate forever, especially in the current environment of regulation, etc. Collector car values can and have dropped significantly over the years on different models, or even in general. If someone overpays for a vehicle and tries to resell it, they won't be able to make a profit, no matter how desirable it is.

Anyway, as far as these cars go, very hard to tell if they will be good investments. They have a ton of electronics and modules... Are these items going to last 50 years? Will they be serviceable? Some rely on things like flash memory which could stop working in a couple of decades. Cars now are far more fragile in that respect than they were even 20 years ago. Will cars like this even be allowed to be driven anymore? The market is really uncertain IMO, a lot more than it ever has been.

In general cars hit a 'low' in the depreciation curve around 10-15 years. So I agree we probably aren't there yet. But this car might hit the bottom sooner, especially if fun gasoline cars become difficult to buy.

 

[Crystals]

This conversation has been great to read and very insightful, but honestly I can't even imagine letting a car sit for all that time while waiting for depreciation curves to flatten and markets to change and interest rates to drop...I might be dead by then! 😆

I'm putting 1k miles a month on my RS so I'll just have to live with the financial consequences. 😁

 

[Atomicinternet]

As a potential buyer, I would have jumped at this a year ago. Now I'm happy with my current RS, and in a few years I'm sure I'll be on to the next great car.

I'd put this up for auction with a reserve and take your time with it. The right buyer will be singularly obsessed with the RS. If you put in the time and find the obsessed you'll get a big payout. BringATrailer or any of those big auction sites would get maximum visibility with zero tire kickers until the final sale.

 

[VinRS]

This is one of 1500 cars right? (see below), I'd also say put it up for auction, low milage limited edition Fords could go for crazy money ..

Ford Focus RS Limited Edition: an LSD-equipped send-off for the US

Pictures, specs and info on the new Ford Focus RS Limited Edition model

www.carmagazine.co.uk

 

[18NBRS]

This is one of 1500 cars right? (see below), I'd also say put it up for auction, low milage limited edition Fords could go for crazy money ..

Ford Focus RS Limited Edition: an LSD-equipped send-off for the US

Pictures, specs and info on the new Ford Focus RS Limited Edition model

www.carmagazine.co.uk

Correct. Ford only brought 1000 2018 Focus RS Limited edition to the USA. 500 NB and 500 RR. And this is one of the 500 NB in the USA.

 

[CPMaverick]

Official Ford production numbers for 2018:
(yes there is a typo that says Fiesta but these came from Ford Show Parts who has access to the Ford Database)

Cliffs, 998 (506 NB, 492 RR) to the US and 454 (239 NB, 215 RR) to Canada. 1452 for North America.

Of the 1452, 1205 had the sunroof option. So 247 were without sunroof. 121 NB and 126 RR.

 

[scarletrose]

The accepted definition of 'collectable' is anything that people buy to collect (rather than use for the intended purpose of the object). The items don't necessarily need to have any intrinsic value. Sounds like you are talking about something that's investable rather than just collectable.

I don't see how any vehicle is guaranteed to appreciate forever, especially in the current environment of regulation, etc. Collector car values can and have dropped significantly over the years on different models, or even in general. If someone overpays for a vehicle and tries to resell it, they won't be able to make a profit, no matter how desirable it is.

Anyway, as far as these cars go, very hard to tell if they will be good investments. They have a ton of electronics and modules... Are these items going to last 50 years? Will they be serviceable? Some rely on things like flash memory which could stop working in a couple of decades. Cars now are far more fragile in that respect than they were even 20 years ago. Will cars like this even be allowed to be driven anymore? The market is really uncertain IMO, a lot more than it ever has been.

In general cars hit a 'low' in the depreciation curve around 10-15 years. So I agree we probably aren't there yet. But this car might hit the bottom sooner, especially if fun gasoline cars become difficult to buy.

I think you're right here as well. I care about collectibles that are good investments but that does not define what is truly a collectible or not. Thinking about pricing though, we've seen some high-end examples go vertical in terms of value (again as opposed to price) 250 GTs, 206 GT Dinos, and F1s come to mind as cars that are collectible and fantastic investments that probably were such from the date of initial purchase.

I think as far as appreciation goes, the limit here is probably set by the art market and that has rolled into the billions for old and famous works.

I doubt this car will get to the upper echelons in car value (I'm thinking R34 GTRs) but I think we can look at older RS models for a guide. Super rare cars like the '70 Escort RS1600s have gone into the $75k range with one reaching $93k. '85 Sierra Cosworth RS500s go well into six figures for a decent example. '95 versions of the cars go for half the older version.

I did a bit more searching and super rare (1 of 50) Heritage editions of the MkIII can be found in the UK going for 75k GBP (~$90k) 2018 Focus RS Heritage Edition 1 of 50 1 Owner, Just 485.... I don't think it's unlikely for a good example of the last and best RS so far from the most expensive and rarest year to go well into six figures even with future mechanical trouble. I think the only way this doesn't happen is if fossil fuel based vehicles are outlawed, and even then there are collectors for this sort of thing.

Thinking on it, I probably should store my RR '18. 😂🤣