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pretty sure its the same as the st. 6800 max for three seconds then the ecu backs it down to 6500
 

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Where have you found a RS supplemental manual btw?
 

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Discussion Starter #5 (Edited)
6,900 RPM Maximum ?

6,900 RPM - maximum (only source I could find; think it is wrong max should be 6,800)

source: 2016 Ford Focus RS: All the Tech Details You Could Ever Want ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

The RS is powered by a substantially modified and transversely mounted version of the 2.3-liter four-cylinder EcoBoost that we’ve already seen in the Mustang. Peak output sits at 350 horsepower and 325 lb-ft of continuous torque, but an overboost function increases the latter figure to 350 lb-ft for short periods. The engine has a heavily revised twin-scroll turbocharger with a larger compressor housing and a unique airbox. It has high-tensile-strength cast-iron cylinder liners to deal with increased boost pressures, as well as a unique cylinder head. Which, in a fitting connection to the previous Escort and Sierra RS models of the 1980s and 1990s, is cast and machined by Cosworth in the U.K. The exhaust manages without any intermediate mufflers; apparently the back box alone is enough to meet noise regulations on both sides of the Atlantic, helped out by active acoustic flaps. Importantly, the engine has been tuned to rev harder than the Mustang’s tight-feeling powerplant, with the fuel cutoff not arriving until 6900 rpm. (Some of the changes apparently are now being considered for a higher-output version of the pony car.) Johnson is confident that the RS will prove to be quicker around a track than any of its obvious rivals, something we’re definitely not prepared to bet against after experiencing our ride.
 

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"...with the fuel cutoff not arriving until 6900 rpm."

Pretty typical to have redline at X (6800 here), a soft ignition cylinder drop above that, then a hard fuel cutoff if people don't take the hint pretty quickly.

"And the early 0-100kmph (62 mph) in 4.7 seconds were shifting at 6,000 RPM"

The fastest 0-60 time would typically have you shifting at a point where your rev drop during the shift put you squarely at the Torque peak. This doesn't have anything to due with the redline (unless it's an early VTEC motor in which case redline IS your torque peak :)).

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Discussion Starter #10 (Edited)
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6800 maximum intermittent.

6500 maximum continuous.
sobster,

Yes, that is pretty much the conclusion we came too. However, those are the Euro engine specs you are looking at: USA specs will have 5 more Hp.

But the 325 ft.lbs torque (Euro 345 Hp engine) doesn't come on until 2,000 RPM so some turbo lag. Turbo range 2,000 RPM to 4,500 RPM.


YMMV,

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But the 325 ft.lbs torque (Euro 345 Hp engine) doesn't come on until 2,000 RPM so some turbo lag. Turbo range 2,000 RPM to 4,500 RPM.


YMMV,

MidCow3
That's not lag. That's boost threshold. Turbo lag is RPM independent.
 

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are we saying that 325tq at 2000 rpm is lagging?
 

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seriously when are you even driving below 2k rpm? lol i feel like i start off at about 1500 so maybe for a split second i wouldn't have full power? lol
 

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sobster,

Yes, that is pretty much the conclusion we came too. However, those are the Euro engine specs you are looking at: USA specs will have 5 more Hp.

But the 325 ft.lbs torque (Euro 345 Hp engine) doesn't come on until 2,000 RPM so some turbo lag. Turbo range 2,000 RPM to 4,500 RPM.


YMMV,

MidCow3


I definitely would not call a 2k rpm full spool lag. You Wanna know lag. I had a PTE 5858 on my Mazda speed 6. You could floor it at 3k rpm and I would not hit full boost till 4200rpm. Lag for days. I'm looking forward to having a turbo with great response.
 

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2000 rpms is pretty dandy for that kind of power. Not as good as my 1.0 ecoboost was in my fiesta (1600 rpms) but that thing is the size of a... Walnut. Sure. That works.
 

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Discussion Starter #17 (Edited)
Lag = Less FUN

are we saying that 325tq at 2000 rpm is lagging?
Hey lag is lag and I HATE lag!!!! :upset::upset:The Car & Driver review agrees turbo-lag source: 2016 Ford Focus RS First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver
makes some sense because torque range is 2,000 to 4,500 rpm. "there’s some lag down low, but the RS’s engine pulls hard once the turbo spins up and exhibits an undiminished zeal all the way to the 6800-rpm fuel cutoff. "

YMMV,

MidCow3

P.S. - at 2,000 RPM you are not at full 325 ft-lbs of torque:saturn:
 

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Discussion Starter #19 (Edited)
I definitely would not call a 2k rpm full spool lag. You Wanna know lag. I had a PTE 5858 on my Mazda speed 6. You could floor it at 3k rpm and I would not hit full boost till 4200rpm. Lag for days. I'm looking forward to having a turbo with great response.
You might want to look at the ST instead no lag at all either "Turbo Lag" or "Boost Threshold".

Yes, I had a big laggard in the past a 83 Datsun 280ZX turbo 2+2, Press on the gas ... One Mississippi, Two Mississippi Two and one half Mississippi, rocket boost take-off fish-tailing and squealing. RS won't be that bad, not as bad as your PTE 5858 but worse than the ST.

YMMV,

MidCow3
 

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You want lag try an old Subaru STi 99 edition. Now that's lag.. But boy, keep up the revs and the big turbo rewards you superbly..

Will miss the beast, now I have ordered the RS but safe to say any lag will indicate a big turbo even though twin scroll implementation is present.
 
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