[sda3]

At the launch yesterday they mentioned the RS will come standard with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires as standard and with cup sport as an option. Which would you choose and are you excited to see Michelin tires over the Goodyears on the ST?

I don't have any experience with them, but I think I would chose the Super Sports because of the daily driving duties the car would see. Not to mention we get a lot of rain around here.

 

[Hoonigan]

Anything other than the Goodyear F1s!

 

[MurphyW]

the goodyear f1s are total garbage. Not to mention Michelin is making some of the best tires out there right now. I'm excited.

 

[TheBearJew]

I am going with the Pilot SUper Sports. I will be DD'ing mine.

 

[cenix]

Micheli Pilot Super Sports, then switch to Dunlop Direzza Star Specs when the Pilots are toast.

 

[Fuxalt]

I am very excited to see them offer something other than the F1's. Which tire I choose will have to do with what climate/state I am in when I get the RS. But seeing I will be DD it and the most likely higher tread wear rating over the cup sports, I would choose the Pilot Sports.

 

[smc_stefan]

I'm highly exited over their decision to bring the Michelin Super Sport as standard, won't go for the Cup tyres as they won't perform well in wet conditions and the RS will be my daily drive. The Michelins perform much better than the F1's. As winter tyres are mandatory here I will only use them during spring and summer, so no problem with the Super Sports.

 

[burke753]

I'll probably go for the super sports. Even though I really want the cup sports, but there isn't a track close enough to me to make it worth it, so the tires would be a waste.


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[markajh]

The Michelin Pilot are amazing... Were on both of my M3s. It's like you're stuck to the road. Insane handling. On the downside, you are always leaving a trail of rubber dust being you as these lovelies wear out like crazy. If you push your car they may need replaced as soon as 6000 miles. I was always lucky to get 10000 per set. They are a tad pricey - but 100% worth it.

 

[smc_stefan]

6000 mls are good enough for sport tyres

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[TheBearJew]

I'm going to with the Pilot Sports (non-cups) and then Hakkipalata's (sp?) for winter driving.

 

[WheelSpin_ST3]

PSS for me, and if I don't have a winter car by then, Continental ExtremeWinterContact for the cold/snowy season. Have the Continentals on my ST right now and they've got me through everything Mother Nature has thrown at us this winter (albeit not a whole lot of snow so far).

Mike

 

[STenthusiaST]

90%+ of these cars will have the Pilot Super Sport rubber on them... but Ford is absolutely GENIUS to offer the Cup 2 on this car, because they will do a lot of the performance testing numbers with those tires on it! Almost unfair to the competition... but hey, its an option! There will be people that drive the car with those tires on them stock, from the factory. Ford gets it.

 

[Event-Horizon]

I love my PSS tires on my ST! They're a much better tire than the Goodyears.

 

[Ex-STi]

The Cup 2's are 21 lbs, and the Super Sport's are 23 lbs. 21 lbs is pretty much the lightest for that size of tire. So with forged wheels and Cup 2's, should yield a total of 4.2 lbs per wheel lighter than the alloy and Super Sport combo. How much performance does 4.2 lbs per wheel translate to?

 

[RocketRS]

The Cup 2's are 21 lbs, and the Super Sport's are 23 lbs. 21 lbs is pretty much the lightest for that size of tire. So with forged wheels and Cup 2's, should yield a total of 4.2 lbs per wheel lighter than the alloy and Super Sport combo. How much performance does 4.2 lbs per wheel translate to?

Good info. Thanks. Figure about one hp per ten pounds, but rotating weight reductions are much more significant. One of the engineers here may be able to give us an idea of what that means in terms of power. Then there are the benefits of reduced unsprung weight. There's a reason that these are a performance option.

 

[spiller]

I was led to believe that the Cup 2s are much more useful in the wet than the original MPSC tyres were? I will be DD'ing mine and optioned them, no snow or anything less than about 50 degrees where I live. Ill be interested to see how long they last, and the cost to replace when they do wear out. I've currently owned over 20 cars and have never kept a car long enough to ever go through a set of tyres from new lol.

 

[Quietmind]

The Cup 2s are pretty terrible in the wet. Very prone to hydroplaning. They are amazing on track. Tread life for the Cups, in my experience, isn't great. But people don't buy the Cup 2s for tread life right? Cost here in the U.S. is right around $300 each for the RS OEM size. If you drive the RS as a daily and drive it like it's meant to be driven, you'll definitely be replacing tires every two years. If you take it to the track or drive like a hoon, they'll probably last six months (two track days in there). The beauty of the Super Sport (non Cup) is that they do everything pretty darn well; including wet. My humble opinion is, unless you are chasing laps times, stick with the Super Sports. If you want to drag race, go with a true drag tire. All that said, way to go Ford for offering the Cups as an option!!

 

[Crooked Letta]

The Cup 2's are 21 lbs, and the Super Sport's are 23 lbs. 21 lbs is pretty much the lightest for that size of tire. So with forged wheels and Cup 2's, should yield a total of 4.2 lbs per wheel lighter than the alloy and Super Sport combo. How much performance does 4.2 lbs per wheel translate to?

There is no exact formula for unspring or rotational mass vs sprung mass. The rough theory is something in the range of 5:1 to 10:1. I will say anything over 2lbs of rotational and unsprung mass per corner is something a good driver will pick up on, and then get use to in about a week lol.

 

[Crooked Letta]

The Cup 2s are pretty terrible in the wet. Very prone to hydroplaning. They are amazing on track. Tread life for the Cups, in my experience, isn't great. But people don't buy the Cup 2s for tread life right? Cost here in the U.S. is right around $300 each for the RS OEM size. If you drive the RS as a daily and drive it like it's meant to be driven, you'll definitely be replacing tires every two years. If you take it to the track or drive like a hoon, they'll probably last six months (two track days in there). The beauty of the Super Sport (non Cup) is that they do everything pretty darn well; including wet. My humble opinion is, unless you are chasing laps times, stick with the Super Sports. If you want to drag race, go with a true drag tire. All that said, way to go Ford for offering the Cups as an option!!

I just checked tire rack and it looks like the Cup2's are on close out and a good deal right now at 280(only 2 left). I checked a few months ago and swear they were up around 400 per tire. I work at a Chevy dealer and we get a lot of vehicles with the Cup2's on them. They are an excellent tire but if you live in an area where you run into a lot of temps in the 50-60s and wet I wouldn't bother trying to daily them. You also need to store them in a heated are over winter or they will crack. Tread life on the Z06, I see people average 5-6000 miles and maybe up to 10K with no track days, and I have seen as low as 2K miles. Like you said if your not chasing lap times the PSS are the way to go, I have seen them last 30K on ST's with very aggressive driving and you don't have to worry about standing water as much or fear if the temp drops below freezing that they are going to crack.