Do you have pics?
Do you have pics?I just want a 2018+ mustang gauge cluster instead of these gauges - I don't even have the center gauge pod in my car anymore. Removed it day one and put an SE speaker grille in to cover it
I haven't payed very close attention as of late, but if nothing has changed with the hardware these should get you close;Do any of y'all understand this thing well enough to know if it should be technically possible to setup a boot animation, or even just a still image? Something similar to what SYNC 3 has, so that something other than a black screen is displayed when the vehicle is fist turned on, would go a long way to improving the appeal, for me. As is the long delay between startup and something being displayed really is the first thing I notice, and one of least desirable aspects of the device at this point.
I assume a shutdown animation should be possible, but IDK if a startup animation (or image) could be displayed any sooner than the guages are, currently, without some significant power draw while the vehicle was turned off. I can hear the fan kick on pretty much right away, but I'm not familiar enough with the components to know if something like this would be possible, or not.
Others have made much better videos showing the boot time, but here's mine which also shows shutdown: New video by Thom Murphy
Doesn't one of the Nutron Pro Moto apps show tyre pressures via the main screenMaybe there’ll be an update soon for these small glitches.
I like the tire pressure idea and I would like to use that as option as well.
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It seems your second link is broken. Thank you.I haven't payed very close attention as of late, but if nothing has changed with the hardware these should get you close;
tinyurl.com/yhwn5c35
It's not an app as much as a web based GUI, which is accessed much like these guages. From my limited testing (only 3 vehicles) the PIDs used on the NPM Drive Device are flip flopped for the rear tire locations, on NADM vehicles. That, and the need to manually connect, then navigate to the particular page mean, for me, while possible, it isn't particularly convenient. The Device software is supposed to go open source soon, which may change that, or at least improve the overall utility...Doesn't one of the Nutron Pro Moto apps show tyre pressures via the main screen
I'm curious as to how the digital dash knows when to wake up, is the 12V line to the gauges (can't remember if it's always hot or accessory)? It might even use the illumination line as an on/off trigger considering how long it takes to boot after pushing the on button. I think that the CANBUS wakes up when unlocking the car, correct? I know that @KaiserEngineering was looking for feedback, if the CANBUS waking up due to unlocking or the dome light turning on can trigger the boot of the digital dash, and the illumination wire (or RPM>0 or "key" is accy or run) is used as a trigger to activate the screen, there would be plenty of time to have a splashscreen loaded and waiting to go by the time the driver sits down.Do any of y'all understand this thing well enough to know if it should be technically possible to setup a boot animation, or even just a still image? Something similar to what SYNC 3 has, so that something other than a black screen is displayed when the vehicle is fist turned on, would go a long way to improving the appeal, for me. As is the long delay between startup and something being displayed really is the first thing I notice, and one of least desirable aspects of the device at this point.
I assume a shutdown animation should be possible, but IDK if a startup animation (or image) could be displayed any sooner than the guages are, currently, without some significant power draw while the vehicle was turned off. I can hear the fan kick on pretty much right away, but I'm not familiar enough with the components to know if something like this would be possible, or not.
Others have made much better videos showing the boot time, but here's mine which also shows shutdown: New video by Thom Murphy
I wondered and thought about this as well, but struggled to put it so succinctly. Attempting to include it in what I written only made it longer, and look like I really wanted to talk a whole lot about **** I am, essentially, clueless about.I'm curious as to how the digital dash knows when to wake up, is the 12V line to the gauges (can't remember if it's always hot or accessory)? It might even use the illumination line as an on/off trigger considering how long it takes to boot after pushing the on button. I think that the CANBUS wakes up when unlocking the car, correct? I know that @KaiserEngineering was looking for feedback, if the CANBUS waking up due to unlocking or the dome light turning on can trigger the boot of the digital dash, and the illumination wire (or RPM>0 or "key" is accy or run) is used as a trigger to activate the screen, there would be plenty of time to have a splashscreen loaded and waiting to go by the time the driver sits down.
I know this isn't what you were asking, but if the 30-second delay boot issue can be cut down significantly then a boot screen can likely be added without looking out of sync with the rest of the car.
Wow after initially being really interested, I’m actually glad I didn’t throw into this purchase because I’m quite particular about having that seemless factory experience and that boot up time is just way too long. Interesting problem and I hope they can come up with a fix.Others have made much better videos showing the boot time, but here's mine which also shows shutdown: New video by Thom Murphy
My guess (I don't have the DD) is it has to do with the data storage on the pi being used. Raspberry Pi read and write speed won't exceed 20-22 MB/s via the onboard SD card slot. I don't know the size of the software, but I assume this is the issue. I also wouldn't assume you are getting very fast storage media for the total price. That being said, those load times are atrocious lol.Wow after initially being really interested, I’m actually glad I didn’t throw into this purchase because I’m quite particular about having that seemless factory experience and that boot up time is just way too long. Interesting problem and I hope they can come up with a fix.
Wow again and cheers for the explanation. The dash was a long time in development, so maybe let them know that SSD speeds is the norm these days and will positively add to the user experience.My guess (I don't have the DD) is it has to do with the data storage on the pi being used. Raspberry Pi read and write speed won't exceed 20-22 MB/s via the onboard SD card slot. I don't know the size of the software, but I assume this is the issue. I also wouldn't assume you are getting very fast storage media for the total price. That being said, those load times are atrocious lol.
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/43618/raspberry-pi-3-micro-sd-card-speed#:~:text=The speed of the microSD,and overclock the card reader.
Even the USB bridge/ethernet tops out at 60MB/s. Most of us are accustomed to SSD speeds at this point (at least 500MB/s, my current pcie4 raid 0 hits 10GB/s lol e-peen enhancing pic below) . If the above schematic is still true, the best option is to look into, "raspberry pi 3 fast boot" checking if you can help optimize the software a bit. The Raspberry Pi4 also doubles the speed to 40MB/s over the sdcard. Pi4 also has vastly improved USB3 with its hugely improved data rate of up to in theory 5 GB/s. So maybe they need to upgrade the hardware in order to have a acceptable boot experience as well; if optimizations can't be made.![]()
The Digital Dash has a circuit to detect when the illumination is enabled on the vehicle, based on this it will enable it's power regulators. Which means when the car is off it draws mere micro amps! Furthermore we leave all the power-on/off decision making to the vehicle which should ensure the Digital Dash never gets stuck in an ON state when the vehicle is off.I'm curious as to how the digital dash knows when to wake up, is the 12V line to the gauges (can't remember if it's always hot or accessory)? It might even use the illumination line as an on/off trigger considering how long it takes to boot after pushing the on button. I think that the CANBUS wakes up when unlocking the car, correct? I know that @KaiserEngineering was looking for feedback, if the CANBUS waking up due to unlocking or the dome light turning on can trigger the boot of the digital dash, and the illumination wire (or RPM>0 or "key" is accy or run) is used as a trigger to activate the screen, there would be plenty of time to have a splashscreen loaded and waiting to go by the time the driver sits down.
I know this isn't what you were asking, but if the 30-second delay boot issue can be cut down significantly then a boot screen can likely be added without looking out of sync with the rest of the car.
I'm excited to hear you're working on thisThe boot time certainly will be improved. For the most part, it is still the base Raspbian image with our code loaded on top of it. One big offender we found was the 24 DPI overlay that needs to be loaded with each boot. This overlay handles the interface to the LCD, but since this will not change we are hoping to embed it into the operating system to reduce load times. There are plenty of tutorials online to improve the Pi boot speed. so we will be looking into those as well.
We'd need to put some consideration into the splash screen idea, there are plenty of tutorials online to add that to the Pi boot sequence. However the Digital Dash is configured so that you never see the actual operating system running. The motherboard will not enable the backlight until it receives communication from the GUI and after 250ms of no communication from the GUI it will disable the screen. Meaning we'd need to adjust the firmware logic to allow for a splash screen. I'd almost prefer to improve the boot time as best we can and have the splash screen part of the application booting up. But, we can also investigate driving some GPIO pins to signal the splash screen is being displayed.I'm excited to hear you're working on this! Do you think, in addition to working for improved boot speeds, perhaps replacing a stock Pi boot image / animation with a custom one prior to the overlay could result in an (custom) image / animation being displayed (in a significantly perceived way) even sooner and until the overlay mightbe applied? Or, is nothing able to be displayed whatsoever prior to the overlay being applied?
With, essentially, no knowledge of such things how might I best apply my time to potentially learn how to make meaningful contributions to this project? Are there some specific resources you'd suggest I take a look at, or specific skills you'd suggest I work to acquire? I don't even know enough to know what I don't know, or where I might begin to change that.
I would be willing to contribute ~3-6 hours a week for 2-3 months learning and applying what I learn. With that, would it be reasonable to think (as a fairly fast learner with strong reasoning skills) I could learn enough to contribute something (useful for other users) before you (or the community) had already gotten to it?
If not, is there anything else that I might do to contribute? Perhaps I (and maybe others) could contribute to a fund to directly support / hire specific developments for the project, or something like that...
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when are you making a second batch?!?!We'd need to put some consideration into the splash screen idea, there are plenty of tutorials online to add that to the Pi boot sequence. However the Digital Dash is configured so that you never see the actual operating system running. The motherboard will not enable the backlight until it receives communication from the GUI and after 250ms of no communication from the GUI it will disable the screen. Meaning we'd need to adjust the firmware logic to allow for a splash screen. I'd almost prefer to improve the boot time as best we can and have the splash screen part of the application booting up. But, we can also investigate driving some GPIO pins to signal the splash screen is being displayed.
Thank you so much for the enthusiasm! We started a Discord channel to start talking about bugs, features, share themes, etc..
We can get in touch and I can see about getting you setup with a test environment to test new features/help us prove out Focus RS specific parameters (We have a 2016 ST). Clearly there's some differences such as Charge Air Temp.
Again, thank you so much for the support!
There is a global electronic shortage so we can't get the main processor. Therefore we are stuck waitingwhen are you making a second batch?!?!