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Got to check out the RS pre-production car today

Saw this blue beauty today and got to talk to the RS product specialist and one of the engineers about it. He gave me tons of info about it which basically fed the excitement I have for this car. This will be an exciting car for sure. No interior pics, but basically looks alot like the current ST3 STs but with some RS touches. No engine pics either but I was told it will have an open filter setup(no cover). The blue paint will be a special color (pay extra) but I was told it's a 4 layer job that will be only available on the RS! We did not notice any orange peeling on it at all.
Enjoy the pics!

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Any slip of the tongue about the actual hp output by the Rep or Engineer?
 

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LOL, they don't slip with that info. The car will also be at the Carlisle Ford Nationals June 5,6, and 7th. More info to come on that.
 

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There were no actual numbers mentioned during the conversation. Over 320hp was mentioned for power output and when they talked about what cars they looked at for benchmarks... Evos, STis, GTI Rs were originally what they strived to beat but they went past those cars and they were looking at the CLA 45 AMGs as the closest competitors. The rep also talked about the amount of chassis stiffening they added, brake cooling guides, options you can get with the car and other things.
The Recaro shell seat will not be available as an option! But if you wanted to buy them from Ford UK, they will swap right in.�� I also asked about Drift mode and the rep said its pretty awesome. I think most of the info that is out there is pretty much true, but for actual pricing and specs, we will have to wait. There was one item that my co-worker wanted for the RS but unfortunately was not available in the car. Auto dimming rear view mirrors will not be available on the RS! So that was a deal breaker for him.�� lol...
 

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You mean the Shell seats wont be available in the US?
In europe you can order the seats with a modified steering wheel
 

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is this the same demo car the other sources have written about, ie. a one off prototype in US trim with handmade carbon fiber bumpers because the preproduction factory bumpers were not ready yet?
 

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We were told it will not be in the US version of the RS. I would assume they had to cut cost somewhere if they wanted to keep the price under $40K for the US version.
It will have the auto dimming centre mirror
 

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The shell Recaro seats will not be available as an option in the US car because it does not have side impact airbags. The rep did mention that if you were to order it (I assumed from Ford Europe), it would be a direct swap. Didn't hear him say if you needed a modified steering wheel to make that happen though.
You mean the Shell seats wont be available in the US?
In europe you can order the seats with a modified steering wheel
 

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I would say yes. The rep and the engineer said this was a working unit and they talked about driving this around on the track and how awesome it was. I told the rep if he wanted to drive by our work and pick us up, I'd buy him lunch. :) They also talked about how crazy the old RS500 version was! The noises and the jekell and hyde personality it had made it a very interesting and fun car.
is this the same demo car the other sources have written about, ie. a one off prototype in US trim with handmade carbon fiber bumpers because the preproduction factory bumpers were not ready yet?
 

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My ST now has an auto dimming rear view mirror with Home Link garage door opener, very easy item to add from the aftermarket world. Don't let it be a deal breaker.
 

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The shell Recaro seats will not be available as an option in the US car because it does not have side impact airbags. The rep did mention that if you were to order it (I assumed from Ford Europe), it would be a direct swap. Didn't hear him say if you needed a modified steering wheel to make that happen though.
That makes sense about the shell Recaros since I read that they didn't meet US Safety specs. It was never mentioned that the side impact bags were missing in the shell seats. Now we know.
 

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Are there ST compatible custom seats with side-airbags?
 

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There were no actual numbers mentioned during the conversation. Over 320hp was mentioned for power output and when they talked about what cars they looked at for benchmarks... Evos, STis, GTI Rs were originally what they strived to beat but they went past those cars and they were looking at the CLA 45 AMGs as the closest competitors. The rep also talked about the amount of chassis stiffening they added, brake cooling guides, options you can get with the car and other things.
The Recaro shell seat will not be available as an option! But if you wanted to buy them from Ford UK, they will swap right in.�� I also asked about Drift mode and the rep said its pretty awesome. I think most of the info that is out there is pretty much true, but for actual pricing and specs, we will have to wait. There was one item that my co-worker wanted for the RS but unfortunately was not available in the car. Auto dimming rear view mirrors will not be available on the RS! So that was a deal breaker for him.�� lol...
This thing had better NOT be priced like a CLA 45 AMG, I don't care what they benchmarked against and beat. This had better be priced competitively with the STI / Golf R, or my money will go somewhere else.
 

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The shell Recaro seats will not be available as an option in the US car because it does not have side impact airbags. The rep did mention that if you were to order it (I assumed from Ford Europe), it would be a direct swap. Didn't hear him say if you needed a modified steering wheel to make that happen though.
Sorry, poor choice of words from me. It is not modified, its the same steering wheel just with a different material on it ;)

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Don't worry about the pricing. It was not mentioned it was a "price competitor" to the CLA 45 AMG, but a performance competitor. If it's more than the golf R, I will be looking at something else for sure. And you should care what they benchmarked against, cause this RS has to be better than the current crop of performance hatches or else, what's the point? :)

This thing had better NOT be priced like a CLA 45 AMG, I don't care what they benchmarked against and beat. This had better be priced competitively with the STI / Golf R, or my money will go somewhere else.
 

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good stuff. Too bad they aren't giving us any new info. Nice pics.
Thanks, glad you like the pics. Yeah I doubt they will give any major info until it's finalized. I'm planning to talk to our product person though, to see if she might have any info she can share. ;)
 
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