No doubt that it intrudes into the passenger foot well considerably more than the Bracketeer optoin. However, it's not unmanageable. With the FE removed, the remaining Drake quick release mount is really not an issue in my opinion (for everyday driving). Evem with the FE in place, I think it's fine for most adults. I'll take some photos tomorrow and test it with my 5'4" wife. She'll let me know if it's a problem. By "longer" image, I'm taking you to mean, taken from a greater distance away from the setup for better spatial perspective. Car's in the garage at the moment and the door's a little wedged in there.
What is the output of this extinguisher? By output, I mean what does it expel? I notice there are other pics of a dry chemical which has it's pro's and cons, the latter being that it makes a hell of a mess. I know, it's better than the car being of fire without such help at hand and I have two of these in my classic car.....
What is the output of this extinguisher? By output, I mean what does it expel? I notice there are other pics of a dry chemical which has it's pro's and cons, the latter being that it makes a hell of a mess. I know, it's better than the car being of fire without such help at hand and I have two of these in my classic car.....
Its basically refrigerant, freon12b1 (chlorodifluorobromomethane) and has been banned in Australia for over 20 years unless for aviation or specific other uses. We had them fitted to our commercial jets but you wont be allowed to import or purchase here without a proper documented exemption.
What is the output of this extinguisher? By output, I mean what does it expel? I notice there are other pics of a dry chemical which has it's pro's and cons, the latter being that it makes a hell of a mess. I know, it's better than the car being of fire without such help at hand and I have two of these in my classic car.....
The extinguishing agent is Halon. I believe it’s rated as a Class B and C type fire suppressant. It is intended for electrical and fluid fires only. It is a dry chemical agent. However, unlike ABC agents, there is no residue left behind and it does not damage electronics. That’s a big plus for modern automotive and aviation applications. Although Halon is no longer produced, the stock that remains is still used for specific applications. It is not the least expensive option.
The extinguishing agent is Halon. I believe it’s rated as a Class B and C type fire suppressant. It is intended for electrical and fluid fires only. It is a dry chemical agent. However, unlike ABC agents, there is no residue left behind and it does not damage electronics. That’s a big plus for modern automotive and aviation applications. Although Halon is no longer produced, the stock that remains is still used for specific applications. It is not the least expensive option.
Its actually a gas at atmospheric pressure and a liquid in the extinguisher. Its used for jet engine fire supression and in some of the cabin extinguishers.
Its actually a gas at atmospheric pressure and a liquid in the extinguisher. Its used for jet engine fire supression and in some of the cabin extinguishers.
Looks real quality. Can you provide us with a longer image so I can see how intrusive it is with regards to passenger accommodation. Just thinking it may be an issue for a passenger getting in and out. The one fitted to Alph dogs looks a little intrusive and yours has a greater standoff from the bracket than his. Thanks
I think that’s with the seat all the way back. A passenger, say an instructor, could fit in there but would need to be a little conscious of the clamp edges and FE nozzle. Emergency exiting would not be much of an issue. There’s no cage. My wife did not like this setup. But with the FE out and just the QR pull bit of the mount attached to the bracket, she was perfectly happy. I’ll leave it like that normally. It’s really not difficult to take in and out. Just the two seat bolts.
I think that’s with the seat all the way back. A passenger, say an instructor, could fit in there but would need to be a little conscious of the clamp edges and FE nozzle. Emergency exiting would not be much of an issue. There’s no cage. My wife did not like this setup. But with the FE out and just the QR pull bit of the mount attached to the bracket, she was perfectly happy. I’ll leave it like that normally. It’s really not difficult to take in and out. Just the two seat bolts.
I recently tried a different fire extinguisher mount setup. I've tried a BUNCH (OTS and semi custom) of setups. None of them stayed in the car very long. All the others mounted to the seat rail bolts, so they remained in a fixed position. So, they got in the way, impacted the seat's range of motion, or were otherwise suffering from some comprise.
I decided I would make my own. Well, have made.
I bought some stuff to get some baseline to work from. Turns out, it works well enough that it's remained in the RS for a while now, and I have no plans to replace it.
This is very good. It moves with seat, so that's nice, and it has a very quick release. My wife is 5' 6" and she clears it without issue. Perhaps the biggest drawback versus other mounts is the face that it sits slightly higher, so higher center of gravity, but I'm OK with that. I could angle it a bit lower, maybe ½ an inch, but it wouldn't look as good, to me. Any lower than that would effect the sliding seat release lever mechanism.
Some noise on very ruff roads, but some some thin stick foam pads cured that, not that it was horrible to begin with.
Install was simple with the seat removed. With the seat in, I'd imagine it'd be quite troublesome, at least for someone with my skill level, and patience. I had some slight longer bolts lying around, which I used, but I did mount it (as a test) with the included bolts just fine.
Anyhow, it looks pretty slick (IMHO), and works well. So, I thought I'd share. I bought my stuff from CJ Pony Parts, but I'm sure it's available elsewhere. Links below.
I have my halon bottle there as well, but I simply used some strong tie-wraps to attach the bottle bracket to the passenger side seat adjustment lever, shown as the black bar to the left of the extinguisher in the picture (right at the edge of the seat). I put a cotton towel under it so it doesn't rub anything.
It is secure, I can reach over and unlatch the bracket and remove the bottle easily, it passed tech no problem, and I haven't had any problems with it over the last three track days.
And it was free
I can post a photo or two next time I have the car out.
"NOTE: You need a Torx T50 bit to undo your bolts. Add one to your shopping cart on here!"
I did get one of those. Ordered it blind. All I needed to do was peek at my seat to see that it was not secured with one of those Torx fasteners. When I went to bolt stuff up, I found that the U.S. seat is secured to the floor with conventional hex-head bolts. It's not a big deal, but U.S. orders won't need to get that Torx T50 bit.
"NOTE: You need a Torx T50 bit to undo your bolts. Add one to your shopping cart on here!"
I did get one of those. Ordered it blind. All I needed to do was peak at my seat to see that it was not secured with one of those Torx. fasteners. When I went to bolt stuff up, I found that the U.S. seat is secured to the floor with conventional hex-head bolts. It's not a big deal, but U.S. orders won't need to get that Torx T50 bit.
OK....is that all...I was puzzled that the spacing may have been different...I wonder if US cars have any TorX bolts...we have quite a lot of them on ours....even the standard Focus which is made in Thailand...
I much prefer the look over the Drake setup I had. I think it looks more premium, a bit sportier, and a little less "Jeep", IMO. I plan to have a new pull tag made, but as is its not bad and it is easy enough to remove or replace. Like the Drake, it moves with the seat and allows for the full range of seat positions. Installation was more complicated than the drake or most of the fixed mounts though. It has an adjustable detent so it doesn't rattle at all but is very quick to release. It took some time to figure out how to make it work, but you can see some pictures HERE of how I chose to do it, along with some others (and video) of the setup. I was able to mount this so that it is even more out of the way than the Drake, and all the brackets for the electrical connections remained as they were.
The PB2 is lighter than the H3R chemical extinguisher, enough that the whole setup is lighter. It uses Halon 1211 versus dry chem, so it shouldn't make a mess like a dry chem. It's also a much more efficient extinguishing agent, so the 2.5 LBS will do more work. I like the billet head and overall clean look. The wrinkle black suits the RS's interior better than the gloss black, IMO.
The setup was more expensive than the Drake and H3R dry chem, but worth it IMO. That said, for those looking for something similar there's a deal available on the H3R HalGuard Fire Extinguisher, 2.5lb and Rennline Universal Fire Extinguisher Mount. At pelicanparts.com you can get them together for less than the usual price of the extinguisher alone. They also offer free shipping, and if you sign up for their newsletter you can get 10% off of your first order. The H3R HalGuard isn't quite as good as Halon 1211, but it is better than their dry chem, IMO. The extinguisher in the package comes with a mount, but if you want something a bit nicer you could look at a variety of options. I tried a few of the higher end ones from Brey-Krause, H3R / Course Motorsports, and Rennline, choosing the Rennline, but all of them were good. IMO the Rennline just looked the nicest while being quick to release one-handed while belted in. The BK was quick too, but didn't look as good, IMO. The H3R / Course Motorsports one looks better than the BK, IMO, but isn't quite as quick to release. It's still one-handable, but is two motions versus one. Still, for the savings that may be worth it, especially considering through Course Motorsports it is available in a range of color combinations on their Cam-Lock Fire Extinguisher Quick Release . Course Motorsports offers 10% off your first order via a link at the top of their page. I may be securing a better, limited time, discount from them for this forum soon though (pending my evaluation of their phone mount).
Anyhow, I really like this setup, and hadn't seen anyone else go this route, so I thought I'd share my impressions and a few images.
I also checked the Kap Industries one, not as "show ready and heavy duty " as the one Thom posted(s) but the price gap (love the looks and the functionality still).
The Kap Industries doesn't look like it'll enough space to the WeatherTech floor liners I got.
I'll probably get the Bracketeer for both myself and my nephew's MazdaSpeed 6.
My question, is it better to mount it on the via grab screw to the seat rail or through the seat mount bolts?
I much prefer the look over the Drake setup I had. I think it looks more premium, a bit sportier, and a little less "Jeep", IMO. I plan to have a new pull tag made, but as is its not bad and it is easy enough to remove or replace. Like the Drake, it moves with the seat and allows for the full range of seat positions. Installation was more complicated than the drake or most of the fixed mounts though. It as an adjustable detent so it doesn't rattle at all but is very quick to release. It took some time to figure out how to make it work, but you can see some pictures HERE of how I chose to do it, along with some others (and video) of the setup. I was able to mount this so that it is even more out of the way than the Drake, and all the brackets for the electrical connections remained as they were.
The PB2 is lighter than the H3R chemical extinguisher, enough that the whole setup is lighter. It uses Halon 1211 versus dry chem, so it shouldn't make a mess like a dry chem. It's also a much more efficient extinguishing agent, so the 2.5 LBS will do more work. I like the billet head and overall clean look. The wrinkle black suites the RS's interior better than the gloss black, IMO.
The setup was more expensive than the Drake and H3R dry chem, but worth it IMO. That said, for those looking for something similar there's a deal available on the H3R HalGuard Fire Extinguisher, 2.5lb and Rennline Universal Fire Extinguisher Mount. At pelicanparts.com you can get them together for less than the usual price of the extinguisher alone. They also offer free shipping, and if you sign up for their newsletter you can get 10% off of your first order. The H3R HalGuard isn't quite as good as Halon 1211, but it is better than their dry chem, IMO. The extinguisher in the package comes with a mount, but if you want something a bit nicer you could look at a variety of options. I tried a few of the higher end ones from Brey-Krause, H3R / Course Motorsports, and Rennline, choosing the Rennline, but all of them were good. IMO the Rennline just looked the nicest while being quick to release one-handed while belted in. The BK was quick to, but didn't look as good, IMO. The H3R / Course Motorsports one looks better than the BK, IMO, but isn't quite as quick to release. It's still one-handable, but is two motions versus one. Still, for the savings that may be worth it, especially considering through Course Motorsports it is available in a range of color combinations on their Cam-Lock Fire Extinguisher Quick Release . Course Motorsports offers 10% off your first order via a link at the top of their page. I may be securing a better, limited time, discount from them for this forum soon though (pending my evaluation of their phone mount).
Anyhow, I really like this setup, and hadn't seen anyone else go this route, so I thought I'd share my impressions and a few images.
Personally I would prefer to go through the bolt holes, rather than use the grub screws. I also think it better a bit higher up because it's easier to reach. Maybe it's been done, but I hadn't seen the grub screw method used on a RS before.
You might look at the SM01BK - Universal Fire Extinguisher Seat Mount it's between the Bracketeer and Rennline in price. I think it's more versatile, better made, and better looking than the Bracketeer. It's aluminum, so lightweight, and the finish is nicer than you might expect. If you sign up for H3R's email list you might get it even cheaper as they frequently offer it for 15% off. I think, even being very budget conscious, most people would choose the H3R mount if they held it an the Bracketeer in hand, especially if the H3R was less than $35 more.
Personally I would prefer to go through the bolt holes, rather than use the grub screws. I also think it better a bit higher up because it's easier to reach. Maybe it's been done, but I hadn't seen the grub screw method used on a RS before.
