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Has anyone ever experienced "engine failure light" which completely shut down the engine. I accidentally missshifted into 2nd instead of 4th at roughly 70 mph, exceeding redline for a few seconds which shut down engine completely. After car stopped. I waited 1 minute and it started back up fine. I drove it around in city and highway for 15 minutes after just to check things out and found/heard no signs of engine faults. Assuming just an RS automatic computer system to prevent damage. I could not locate anything online or in owners manual.
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Steve B (2017 RS2, Frozen White)
 

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I did the same thing when I first got the car. Shifter is awfully ambiguous depending on your arm size and how you position your hand. Anyway, Mine did the same thing; got a CEL and it went into limp mode. Limped it home, left it for 15 minutes, started it up and all was well. Only thing I noticed was that the HPFP was a bit noisier than usual (it is cam driven, after all). You're probably ok if its deriving fine and power delivery is normal.
 

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Glad to hear your RS is OK! I always have to watch the 5th to 6th shift. It seems super easy to go into 4th due to the spring to center so I palm out now and no problems.
 

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Count your stars, because you was lucky.

A 70mph money shift from 3rd to 2nd means the engine saw 7400rpm.

At 76mph that's about 8000rpm.

I was luckier. I had it happen happen at about 75-80mph. The first and only time I money shifted a car. Dash lit like a Christmas tree and the car went to Limp Home mode.

Engine saw more than 8000rpm and survived to tell tell the tail before the Head Gasket got it in the end.

Code:
RPM @ MPH.
RPM	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th
6500	37.6	62.2	91.9	117.9	147.8	177.1
6600	38.1	63.1	93.3	119.7	150.1	179.9
6700	38.7	64.1	94.7	121.6	152.3	182.6
6800	39.3	65.0	96.1	123.4	154.6	185.3
6900	39.9	66.0	97.5	125.2	156.9	188.0
7000	40.5	66.9	98.9	127.0	159.2	190.8
7100	41.0	67.9	100.3	128.8	161.4	193.5
7200	41.6	68.9	101.7	130.6	163.7	196.2
7300	42.2	69.8	103.2	132.4	166.0	198.9
7400	42.8	70.8	104.6	134.2	168.3	201.7
7500	43.3	71.7	106.0	136.1	170.5	204.4
7600	43.9	72.7	107.4	137.9	172.8	207.1
7700	44.5	73.6	108.8	139.7	175.1	209.8
7800	45.1	74.6	110.2	141.5	177.4	212.6
7900	45.7	75.6	111.6	143.3	179.6	215.3
8000	46.2	76.5	113.1	145.1	181.9	218.0
8100	46.8	77.5	114.5	146.9	184.2	220.7
8200	47.4	78.4	115.9	148.8	186.5	223.5
8300	48.0	79.4	117.3	150.6	188.7	226.2
8400	48.5	80.3	118.7	152.4	191.0	228.9
8500	49.1	81.3	120.1	154.2	193.3	231.6
8600	49.7	82.2	121.5	156.0	195.5	234.4
8700	50.3	83.2	122.9	157.8	197.8	237.1
8800	50.9	84.2	124.4	159.6	200.1	239.8
8900	51.4	85.1	125.8	161.5	202.4	242.5
9000	52.0	86.1	127.2	163.3	204.6	245.3
 

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Lucky your synchros aren't damaged.
Merry Xmas.
 

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While the gearbox is not perfect, it takes a lot of precision to miss-shift like this.
If you do neutral properly you will never end up in the wrong gear.
Unless you are in WWE and you want to perform a smack down on the gearbox.
Many people just smash the gear lever from one gear to the next thinking that is how you get unlimited powaaaaa.

Happy to hear your car is fine.
 

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For comparison, Porsche turbos heve a 6750 redline. They also record over revs in roughly 300 rpm increments. Step1) to 6900, 2) 7100, 3) 7400, 4) 7900, 5) 8200 6) >8500. Porsche allows over revs up to level 3 for extended warranty but will not accept level 5 or higher. A key measure is they require 90 engine hours from the last recorded over rev in the 3 or 4 range.

The point is that just bc it didn't fail shortly after an over rev doesn't guarantee no damage. It may create a latent failure, hence tell time requirement. 90 hrs at 40mph average speed is 3600 mi. Fyi.

I had an STI that a frieND did a an over rev/missed shift of roughly 800 rpm.....never had an issue, but scared tell crap out of me.
 

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I missed the 5 -> 4 shift and hit 2nd while getting off the freeway. It was a slow decel so I was able to slam the clutch back in as soon as I felt the engine revs jump up. This was with around 500 miles on the car (over a year ago) and caused a couple sleepless nights worrying about damage. I'm about to hit 20k now, with 2k since HG fix and still all good so far.

After missing that shift, I went home and ordered the first part to upgrade the car. Short shift arm, all solid bushings in engine and cab, and the short shift lever. Installed them all and have not had a missed shift again. The stock shifter is way too sloppy, and i was never happy with it compared to my previous 06 STI. With everything installed the shifts are very short and precise with no play whatsoever.
 

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People want to chalk it up to sloppy shifting tendencies/user error. But I've never had this issue on any of my other 7 manual cars, and it seems that quite a few RS owners have suffered the same fate. I'm telling you, its the gearbox. Its loosie goosie baby. You can literally feel the shift lever bend a little bit when you throw it hard into third from second. ridiculous.
 

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Solid shift cable bushings (transmission side) take almost all of the vagueness out of the shifter. RMM fixes what's left and increases shift consistency as well. These should mods be on the short list of any serious RS owner, and they're cheap to do.

That and driver mod if necessary. That one's free.
 

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Solid shift cable bushings (transmission side) take almost all of the vagueness out of the shifter. RMM fixes what's left and increases shift consistency as well. These should mods be on the short list of any serious RS owner, and they're cheap to do.

That and driver mod if necessary. That one's free.
They take all the "warrantied" out of the shifter, too. Not trying to be an ass, but my point was that Ford put all this effort into making the chassis so phenomenal and squeezing 350 bhp out of a four banger and still (theoretically, obviously) make it last 100,000+ miles...and yet they used a crap gearbox in a car that was supposed to be trackable. Sorry, but like I said: never had another gearbox that was so delicate towards misshifts.
 

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its not fare to say the gearbox is delicate towards mis-shifts. the sycros on 1 and 2 are "more aggressive" which means it is easier to downshift. but that will also mean that it is easier to get it in to 2nd gear on a money shift by accident. In other manual cars that i have driven, downshifting down to 1st gear requires too much force. the RS is the first gearbox where 1st feels like a good option for certain situations. I agree about adding the transmission bushings, i am still stock and all of the vagueness appears to be from those bushings, but for me it is totally livable.
 

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its not fare to say the gearbox is delicate towards mis-shifts. the sycros on 1 and 2 are "more aggressive" which means it is easier to downshift. but that will also mean that it is easier to get it in to 2nd gear on a money shift by accident. In other manual cars that i have driven, downshifting down to 1st gear requires too much force. the RS is the first gearbox where 1st feels like a good option for certain situations. I agree about adding the transmission bushings, i am still stock and all of the vagueness appears to be from those bushings, but for me it is totally livable.
Unfortunately with the solid bushings you can't go back, but when at RSAA I drove their stock shifter cars and missed my solid shift bushings. The shifter felt super mushy and vague with the stock bushings, which makes sense as they're relatively soft rubber likely for the purpose of reducing NVH from the engine/transmission. They're probably also quite a bit cheaper and may help out the synchros a bit by absorbing the force applied by the shifter.
 

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I can't speak for the solid bushings as I've never experienced them, but IMO there is nothing particularly sloppy with the stock shift (at least not on my relatively new car). I would say that it feels a bit "muddy", but there's no ambiguity about what gear it's in. It feels to me like people just making excuses. The shifts are better than most transverse mount manuals that I've driven.

Don't smash the gears. You can still shift quick, but not with much force - that way they won't easily go into a lower gear.
 

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I can't speak for the solid bushings as I've never experienced them, but IMO there is nothing particularly sloppy with the stock shift (at least not on my relatively new car). I would say that it feels a bit "muddy", but there's no ambiguity about what gear it's in. It feels to me like people just making excuses. The shifts are better than most transverse mount manuals that I've driven.

Don't smash the gears. You can still shift quick, but not with much force - that way they won't easily go into a lower gear.
We share the sentiment.
 
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