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Got off the phone with Jeremy yesterday about ordering a set.... The price has gone up $1K. Was $4150 now $5150

25% increase ..... wow
 

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Got off the phone with Jeremy yesterday about ordering a set.... The price has gone up $1K. Was $4150 now $5150

25% increase ..... wow
Ouch. Sort of makes sense if you get the camber plates already installed but I doubt that's the case.
 

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Forgot it even was $4k before. I had a vague recollection of that, but then assumed that maybe $5k was the normal. I wonder if $4150 was the whole "pre-order" price. Order is in either way! Next up will be finding a mechanic willing to actually follow instructions and do everything to spec. I presume I'll want an alignment too, yeah? Haven't considered before, but maybe I'll think about throwing in a rear swaybar too if the suspension is already getting disassembled...

For the interested, site lists 2-4 week backorder, but when I spoke to [email protected] over the phone he suggested it could be up to 6 weeks due to an ongoing squeeze on raw materials (per their supplier)
 
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Wow is right. Is the kit remaining the exact same or are there hardware changes?
As far as I can tell, it's just the same Tractive setup, with all the changes and bug-fixes thus far incorporated - like V3 springs.
 

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I think it was $4k+ plus the controller so $5k+ sounds about right unless it’s $5k plus the controller then sound Ouch an extra $k
 

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I think it was $4k+ plus the controller so $5k+ sounds about right unless it’s $5k plus the controller then sound Ouch an extra $k
Yeah, it's now 6k with controller. It went up 1k.

@braap , yes at least check alignment afterwards. I always check alignment after working on the suspension. It will be cheaper than tires.
 

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I think it was $4k+ plus the controller so $5k+ sounds about right unless it’s $5k plus the controller then sound Ouch an extra $k
My invoices from 3 years ago show $1190 for the controller and $4150 for the Tractive dampers - total $5340.

Their web site indicates the controller is the same price and the dampers now + $1K @ $5150
(NB: This page shows the older prices, but when you click the Order buttons, it shows the new increased prices)
 

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FYI, the rear sway bar is super easy to add after the fact with no disassembly required. So you could always hold off on that one. The front sway bar is the one that you may want to consider adding with everything disassembled, since that requires dropping the sub frame.


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You might want to see my review here: DSC Sport: Tractive Active Dampers Available!.

Since that time I have upgraded to the V3 rear springs and played around with various program settings. For the last 5 months I've been running Northish's Heavy Touring program, which I like alot: DSC/Tractive Programming.

Hope you find this info useful.
I, too just uploaded Northish's Heavy Touring program, and love it. It took just enough Viagra out of the recipe. I may try adjusting the Sport mode, based on how successful his mods were.
I'm glad I got this suspension kit. My RS is my DD, and this makes a world of difference.
 

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Anyone contacted Tractive Suspension direct for a costing?
I guess ours is the one at the top of the list, has anyone tried any of the other 5 options. I think the last 4 are all rose jointed with camber plates.
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Anyone contacted Tractive Suspension direct for a costing?
I guess ours is the one at the top of the list, has anyone tried any of the other 5 options. I think the last 4 are all rose jointed with camber plates.
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I've talked to both the Tractive rep on this board as well as Tom Glazemakers (Tractive Co-Owner), and both eventually suggested working through DSC, primarily because I'm in the US and because they don't sell direct. I think Tomek has used one of their race suspension kits.
 

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For the last 5 months I've been running Northish's Heavy Touring program, which I like alot: DSC/Tractive Programming.
I, too just uploaded Northish's Heavy Touring program, and love it. It took just enough Viagra out of the recipe. I may try adjusting the Sport mode, based on how successful his mods were.
I'm glad I got this suspension kit. My RS is my DD, and this makes a world of difference.
Glad you guys are liking the Heavy Touring model. I went through several revisions last year to arrive at it so glad it's still holding up in other's opinions.

I've had my eyes on Sport mode this spring and have been driving with the DSC supplied calibration to come up with some changes I'd like to make for spirited drives. I'll share what I come up with but I'll spend some time experimenting first over the next few months.

For starters though, it is interesting to look at the DSC supplied Sport map when re-scaled against the actual capability range of the dampers. You can see there are conditions where certain dampers are instructed to go beyond 100% available stiffness. Nothing wrong with that I don't think, just interesting.

*Edit - also noticed that under hard braking at 1.0 G forward and 0 G lateral the rear dampers go to 103% and the fronts to 93%. The braking table likely overrides that, but also interesting.

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One thing I didn't like about their maps, is that they soften the inside damper more and more as you approach higher g loads. They do this to be more compliant as the inside goes over track curbing. Which is fine if it's on the track map, but it was the standard approach, I think (haven't looked in a while).

What this does for our car is allows for more body roll (think about softening a sway bar). In my early maps, I matched the inside rate to the outside rate and the car felt more stable with less body roll. Nice for spirited driving. The problem was, just like a real stiff sway bar, it induced understeer as you entered corners. My current map, has matching front rates at the extents of pure lateral loads and then the inside front rate ramps down as you approach front corner loading to reduce understeer. It feels really good.
 
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