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This is my second home-made ported head, still learning as I go. The first runs great: the engine has incredible mid-range and the head porting + Ford Performance cams certainly helped.

For this second version I went a little further: more porting, in particular on the exhaust side, a bit of work on the combustion chambers, and new performance valves (Ferrea) as well as my own valve seat cutting sauce, because why not?

I decided to sink the valves a little bit to move the seat outwards nearer to the edge of the valves, then I was able I cut a short 60° angle down the throat then a 75° angle, with a short 30° angle outwards plus a very small touch of 15° but only on the intake.

On the exhaust side, the seats (the 45° part in contact with the valves) were moved outwards 0.4mm so the 60° cut is 0.8mm larger in diameter than before, and the 75° cut extends about 4mm down the throat, all while maintaining decent 2mm-wide seats.

Ford says 1.85-2.25mm on the exhaust, so well within specs, and it covers 100% is the seat that is cut on the valves themselves, so the valve cooling should still be optimal.

The valves sank about 0.2-0.3mm due to the grinding, so I had to redo the lash from scratch and order 16 new tappets to restore the mandatory minimum of 0.3mm valve lash on the exhaust side and 0.19mm on the intake. On 6 out of 8 exhaust valves I ended up using the thinnest (3.000mm) tappets available from Ford, and the valve lashes corrections needed across all 8 exhaust valves ended up within 0.1mm, not bad for a hand cut valve job.

I did a similar operation on the intake side, the seats moved out about the same amount but it was much easier as the seats are narrower. In both cases I set the outer diameter of the seats to match the outer edge of the valves, so 30mm and 32.5mm. Then I could thin the seats back to spec from the inside using the 60° cutter, enlarging the holes to about +5% surface area on the intake and +4% on the exhaust side.

Grinding a cylinder head is particularly time consuming, I’d say about 60 hours in total between the grinding, seat cutting, valve lapping, and valve lash, plus a few days at the machine shop for cleaning and surfacing, waiting for the new valve tappets from Ford, and finally assembling the valve train carefully using my favorite assembly oil: RedLine “new formula,” which it liquid-ish but does not run.

I used Velcro “dots” on the valves and the lapping stick, to avoid the aggravation of the succion cups, that… suck.

I don’t have before/after flow figures. To be honest I don’t believe in flow figures, that just one data point but reality is more complicated.

Most flow charts show most of the gains realized through porting at lifts that no camshaft will ever reach anyway, so the peak CFM is entirely meaningless in most cases.

The Ford Performance camshafts lifts 9mm on the intake side (0.354”) and 7.8mm on the exhaust side (0.307”) - Any wonderful gains starting at 0.500” or above are not very useful, and any loss below 0.350” will result in less power than the stock head at all RPMs.

The Piper Stage 3 that everyone sells lifts 10.85mm (0.427”) on the intake and 9.7mm (0.382”) on the exhaust so, even with these, flow figures showing gains starting at 0.400” and up are not relevant: we need a head that shows significant gains at 0.200”

These are still pretty nice numbers by the way, but the cams looks pointy and symmetric while the Ford Performance camshafts are more rounded and asymmetric. I think they open faster and stay in their high lift portion longer. The total flow may not be so bad even if the duration and lift are more modest, and the initial acceleration of the air column due to the fast lift may help draw more air than some other profiles. This is something that cannot be measured on a flow bench.

I hope it did not overdo anything and ruined the low and mid ranges with this second attempt. My v1 head is terrific in those areas.

I bought the tungsten seat cutters from Neway, a company from Michigan. You will need both a 5.5mm and a 5.52mm pilot due to variation in valve guide bores. The cutters are great but require a little practice. You cannot avoid spreading seat debris and I recommend taping all orifices, also you need a brush to clean the valve guide before inserting the pilot. Any debris and you risk damaging the guide, and your pilot will not be straight. I messed up two seats that I had to redo because, when lapping, the ground area wasn’t going 360° - I think I cut those seats slightly sideways due to the pilot not being completely straight. I was able to correct it by re-grinding just a bit, making sure the valve guide bore was clean, but this is why my intake 2 and 4 have thinner tappets than the others. I used assembly oil as lube because that’s what was on the table, and some debris got stuck in the blades and the surface finish wasn’t great at first. I did a final pass after cleaning the blades to get a smooth finish (that looked very good) and lapping went well. Next time I’ll use water-soluble cutting oil and somehow pour it while cutting to remove the debris.

I also got a “bare bones” kit from CC Specialty Tool from Tennessee, and everything else (carbide burrs, flap wheels, sanding paper cones etc) from Amazon, including a Moroso engine brush kit which proved very useful. The CC Specialty Tool has a pedal that control the speed of the motor. I did not know how useful that would be until I tried it.

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Nicely done! Any plans for doing any flow testing etc? Would be cool to see how it compares to stock or your v1.
No plans. My new machine shop has a Saenz J-600 flow bench (serious stuff, it seems) but they said they aren’t ready yet, needs software update, buy a new PC etc, so no flow testing for me. I’ll never have a stock head and the v1 and v2 side-by-side for back-to-back testing anyway.

It will stay seat of the pants. I have a good progression from (1) stock to (2) FP-cams only to (3) FP-cams + v1 head and soon (4) FP-cams + v2 head. I tossed in a Ford Performance catback and the first light clutch/flywheel between (1) and (2) and the BBK throttle at (3) and I always work on improving the calibration.

I would say the most spectacular jump was at (3) with the v1 head, actually the v1 engine build too, with ceramic coating on the Mahle pistons, custom ring gaps, and turbo blanket.

I already had the light crankshaft and flywheel at (2) so most of the improvement going to (3) was due to internal improvements: pistons and work on the head, and perhaps the turbo blanket.

If it was not for the gasket leak I’d be perfectly happy with that, it’s the best road engine I ever had, except an ex factory rally engine I had on my Escos at some point - it was an international-spec ex Ford Group A engine built by Mountune Racing - I am chasing that feeling.

I’m going to rebuild the v1 at some point, I just hope the head didn’t warp. The v1 was scary at times, you open the throttle in-between two corners and the car gains speed so quickly in one second it surprises you to the point you aren’t sure to make the next corner 😅

The v2 build uses ligther rods and pistons (custom-coated JE pistons) better head studs and head gasket (presumably) and downsizes the clutch to 7.25” which also reduces the total fw+clutch a further 550g compared to the previous light one. I’m going to shave the AC belt drive race from the crank pulley too, that’s less ambitious but much cheaper than a custom pulley and it should lighten the rotating assembly a further 700-800g right there, so this build will have a lot more inertia reduction, while the head has new valves and a lot more grinding and new work on the seats and chambers.

The Ferrea Comp Plus valves are “flatter” with a 22° angle on the intake valve heads and 25° on the exhaust, which is meant to make the apparent opening at low lift a little larger a little sooner.

At the end I only enlarged the duct’s cross section a few percents compared to stock, I want to make it flow a little easier at high boost but not ruin the progression that gets there.
 

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Be interested to what performance is like, good work
 
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Me too 😳 Joke aside I’m after engine response and mid-range. What is good for me might not suit someone else’s goals and vice-versa. For example the price to pay for a big turbo in terms of engine response is not for me.
This is my very same goal. Numbers are insignificant to me, but throttle response is. Just like Gordon Murray and the T50 ;)
 

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This is my very same goal. Numbers are insignificant to me, but throttle response is. Just like Gordon Murray and the T50 ;)
this was exactly my target, i would only go with a big turbo if i could get one that hits peak torque by 3500rpm. I know Montune was working on one, but havent seen updates in months.

For perspective, here is my Dyno sheet. I went with BBK TB, Turbo Tech Racing intake manifold, ported head and Piper BP270 cams with supertech springs and BS delete. I hot peak torque at 2800 rpm which in my opinion is amazing for a turbo motor and great for an overkill DD. The turbo does fall off quickly as it cannot keep up with the flow. top lines are with WMI.

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I’ve gone for BP285 cams on mine
 

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Has anyone tried a modified OE turbo? Raptor Racing sells one that another Canadian company makes... I'd imagine it would fall between the OE turbo (that's too small), and the Precision turbo (that's too big)... for the stock motor.
 

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Has anyone tried a modified OE turbo? Raptor Racing sells one that another Canadian company makes... I'd imagine it would fall between the OE turbo (that's too small), and the Precision turbo (that's too big)... for the stock motor.
i thought mountune had the medium range turbo solution?
Replace EFR 7163 Turbo with EFR 6758 Turbo [Subtract -$400.00]
should spool up quicker than the larger borgwarner 7163...and hold high rpm power a little longer than OEM. although i'd be game for an upgraded OEM version as well.
 

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i thought mountune had the medium range turbo solution?
Replace EFR 7163 Turbo with EFR 6758 Turbo [Subtract -$400.00]
should spool up quicker than the larger borgwarner 7163...and hold high rpm power a little longer than OEM. although i'd be game for an upgraded OEM version as well.
Yeah I’m eying the 6758. From what I gather it’s just a hair bigger than the stock one, a couple of mm bigger on all the important dimensions.

In my opinion the stock turbo is close to perfect, it needs a little more breath at the top end above 6000, to move the peak power to 6500 and very easily break the 400hp bar doing so.

Also I’d opt for the .64 A/R variant not the .85, namely the 6758-A version, p/n 179388.

The compressor map indicates it may be a bit short on flow but if everything is a little larger than stock then so must be the flow, assuming they are both state of the art modern designs.

This is the turbo that was used by Mountune UK on their 450hp kit, and Borg-Warner says 250-500hp which is a good range for me: https://cdn.borgwarner.com/docs/default-source/iam/boosting-technologies/efr-6758-f.pdf
 

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This is the turbo that was used by Mountune UK on their 450hp kit
Most people here in the uk who had mountune MR450 and MR520 kits have experienced major issues. Oil leaks and maps not hitting target\advertised power levels, consequently they haven’t sold too well
 

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Most people here in the uk who had mountune MR450 and MR520 kits have experienced major issues. Oil leaks and maps not hitting target\advertised power levels, consequently they haven’t sold too well
Yes however that’s probably not a problem with the turbo itself, most likely the installation. I’ve looked at their kit and they supply all new pipes and seals. The installation on the car is a bit challenging even for a stock turbo and many leaked oil (at the feed or return pipe) after the HG recall and they did not touch the turbo itself, just removed the 4 bolts and the water + oil return on the engine side to move the turbo out of the way and pull the head. If the engine is out of the car and you have plenty of time, it’s probably a lot easier. The NX2 is a drop-in if I understand correctly, but it’s far too big for me.
 

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