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Felt like maybe 1 rear and 1 front tire. Odd sensation. I've launched in the rain before without it fully losing traction. Felt like a one wheel fwd burnout in 2nd gear.
Stock ish. Tune and WGA.
This makes sense to me. In a wet launch with no front LSD, you can get a single wheel spinning with steering straight ahead. The ECU/RDU determines you need the opposite rear wheel to come in to keep the car straight (torque vectoring). You thusly get one front/opposite rear powered...
 
Hey!

Added some new features and tunes:
  • AWD Temp logger: use this script to monitor AWD components temp and create logs. If you manage to get the AWD off we will be able to see what was the actual reason - just PM me the logs.
  • +12% uncapped tune. No 1700 Nm limit, this will put a smile on your face in Drift Mode :)
  • +25% uncapped tune. Again, no limits. For the brave. Maybe we should create a "rainy day fund" for the first broken AWD?
Use git to update or just download the fresh image: 20200828_DaftWorks.7z

Have fun!
Thanks so much for your time and interest in this project!

So, I assume we go through the flash process to switch from one "tune" or another? Is the AWD temp monitor setup in both of these new RDU tunes?
For my tune folder organization, is this new one T-14 or some other number?
 
This makes sense to me. In a wet launch with no front LSD, you can get a single wheel spinning with steering straight ahead. The ECU/RDU determines you need the opposite rear wheel to come in to keep the car straight (torque vectoring). You thusly get one front/opposite rear powered...
When you launch the car on a non LSD version and one front wheel breaks traction wouldn't the traction control apply some brake to that wheel to stop the wheel spin and transfer some drive to the other wheel?

Ciao
 
Felt like maybe 1 rear and 1 front tire. Odd sensation. I've launched in the rain before without it fully losing traction. Felt like a one wheel fwd burnout in 2nd gear.


Stock ish. Tune and WGA.
I'm personnaly convinced that RDU % should be increased proportionaly to the engine increased power (tune) for track use, not more, just to send additional engine power to the rear.
Either with my 400bhp, +12% RDU, and semi-slick tyres, I feel the rear dominate the front because of wheight transfer during launch and hard acceleration.
I think it should be something like that happened to you: slippy surface + wheight transfer = front tyres loosing grip = car trying to compensate on 1 side.
What I do not understand, is Kacper's car launching flat with 400hp and mine launch like a drag car with only 12% tune. I suppose for my specific application, around 8% would better results.
 
I'm really excited to follow this conversation. Thanks to all involved. I want to try this out myself soon. I need to figure out if I'll be able to load the RDU tune with my Mongoose cable (J2534 Ford Pass-thru) or if I need to buy a Carloop.
 
So what you're saying is the virtual temp reading of the RDU is pretty accurate..
Yep, plus or minus a few degrees or % in variance in heat is not concerning to me unless hitting the peak threshold. So I would be comfortable with the virtual measurement if need be, a few degrees of change vs actual won't mean anything, you would be shutting down or pushing the kill switch long before you max out or peak thresholds.
 
Just got it installed. Launching feels odd. I launched on cold tires though but i can feel the car move to the left in Track mode with TC fully off. I have to get my buddy to film a launch to see how it looks. I am excited to so some autocross with the tune though.
 
Hey!

Added some new features and tunes:
  • AWD Temp logger: use this script to monitor AWD components temp and create logs. If you manage to get the AWD off we will be able to see what was the actual reason - just PM me the logs.
  • +12% uncapped tune. No 1700 Nm limit, this will put a smile on your face in Drift Mode :)
  • +25% uncapped tune. Again, no limits. For the brave. Maybe we should create a "rainy day fund" for the first broken AWD?
Use git to update or just download the fresh image: 20200828_DaftWorks.7z

Have fun!
Do you have a step by step process on how to update this using github?
 
You can use the ubuntu image and click on the terminal.
Use that to update.

When inside the Ubuntu Virtual Machine you can click on the 3rd icon from the top, on the left which is the terminal.
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From there it will open a terminal window for you to type your commands.
It should already take you to the directory /home/daftracing and you can type:
cd DaftWorks

If not you can just type the command:
cd /home/daftracing/DaftWorks

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From there @Kacper has conveniently set it up to easily pull the latest code.

Just type:
git pull

and you are updated. This should update your files on the Virtual Machine with the latest master branch files.

Next run the build.sh from the vbf directory.

cd vbf
then
./build.sh
 
Anyone said logs :) Here you have two from us.
Yes, we installed real temp sensor in RDU.

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Anyone said logs :) Here you have two from us.
Yes, we installed real temp sensor in RDU.

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Did you keep the log going longer? I’m curious because the track session seems to show the temps hitting a plateau, but the RDU off issue seems to indicate that temps continue to increase for at least 15 minutes until it hits a threshold (the 15-18 min mark is usually when I hit limp mode during track driving). Unless the programming triggers limp mode after a set time above a threshold...
 
Did you keep the log going longer? I’m curious because the track session seems to show the temps hitting a plateau, but the RDU off issue seems to indicate that temps continue to increase for at least 15 minutes until it hits a threshold (the 15-18 min mark is usually when I hit limp mode during track driving). Unless the programming triggers limp mode after a set time above a threshold...
RDU shutdown is majority of the time based on PTU temps or oil/coolant temps forcing limp mode. Have you gotten the larger radiator? That'll be the first step before you enter the rabbit hole of dealing with this car's inherent cooling issues.
 
RDU shutdown is majority of the time based on PTU temps or oil/coolant temps forcing limp mode. Have you gotten the larger radiator? That'll be the first step before you enter the rabbit hole of dealing with this car's inherent cooling issues.
I think that additional PTU coolant to air heat exchanger Mishimoto were experimenting with looked like a decent option. Additional cooling of the main coolant system before it goes into the PTU.
There was nothing in the RDU temps to worry about but I assume they weren't measuring the clutch pack compartments only the main bevel box. The clutch packs is where the real heat is generated.

Ciao
 
I think it will take more documentation on driving conditions, air temps & humidity, tight track with a lot of curves vs. those with long straights, etc. to determine what causes RDU shutdown. I've done a number of 20 minute sessions at 3 different race tracks over the last 3 years and have never had the dreaded shutdown. Air temps have been all over the charts from mid 50's to close to 100 degrees. One track is "tight" with a lot of turns, the other two tracks have longer straight sections that help to cool the brakes and give a smidge more time for air flow across the radiator. Are the 16's & 17's more prone to shutdown compared to the 18's with a front diff? Are you at a power level that generates more heat inducing shutdown? Is it your tune? Your Tuner? Seems to me there is still a lot of unknowns and variables on what the actual trigger is for the RDU shutdown.
 
RDU shutdown is majority of the time based on PTU temps or oil/coolant temps forcing limp mode. Have you gotten the larger radiator? That'll be the first step before you enter the rabbit hole of dealing with this car's inherent cooling issues.
Do you have evidence that engine oil/coolant temps can influence the shutdown? I’ve never seen those gauges hit the red zone when I experience rdu shutdown.

I’m stock and I plan to keep it that way. Honestly not that bothered by the issue - I’ve always felt that I can get a good session in before it limps on me. I run in the Southwest where temps are usually 90-100+ so I see it as par for the course.

I didn’t want to hijack the thread - just was the first time I’ve seen actual data on temps (thanks @TomekRST) but was surprised he only collected data for 8 min. If Tomek still has temp sensors installed on an RS (ideally stock) then getting data from a whole session that eventually provoked rdu shutdown would seem to be very informative.
 
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