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I realize this isn't direct competition, but man, the new Corvette is some serious performance for the money!

https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/next-generation-corvette

495 HP, mid-engine, starts at $60k. I have a 218HP mid-engined car, and the driving feel is so incredible in a mid-engine, that I think Chevy has a winner on their hands. Corvette name aside, this is a brand new car.
 

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Only deal breaker for me is no manual transmission will be offered.

I understand that in many cars, the automatic tranny is "faster", but IMO is just not as much fun, less driver involvement.
 

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I think the tranny choice was a packaging issue.
But, that said, this car is bound to be a big hit in the performance car market. I can't wait to see what the DAM is :).
In case you missed it, here's a good overview video from Leno:
 

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Only deal breaker for me is no manual transmission will be offered.

I understand that in many cars, the automatic tranny is "faster", but IMO is just not as much fun, less driver involvement.
I think I'll be quite okay without a real manual since its a true DCT.
 

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The demand for the C8 will be insane. I can only imagine the initial dealer markups. That said there will be 1st year production kinks to work out, no doubt.

With a supercharged LS2 version, which Chevrolet will no doubt produce, the C8 will be about the same weight with double the power and torque of the RS. That's insane! I was thinking, oh yeah it's RWD so getting that power to the ground will be a challenge BUT with the mid-engine design, nope that's most likely not an issue.

Truely great times we are living in!
 

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There won't be much as far as dealer markups. I've been following the C8 rumors/leaks/etc closely for nearly a year. Most of the big time Corvette dealers have been promising to sell the car at MSRP. The Corvette isn't like the RS, Chevy is going to build as many as they can sell. Nothing limited production about it, especially the base car and the Z51. They typically sell about 35,000 vettes a year. There will be more than enough to go around. There will probably be some early cases of a markup, but it won't last long.

I'm really tempted to get one of these. I had my mind set on a Gallardo in a couple years, but this car is so tempting. The Gallardo purchase would be more about "I've wanted one of these things I was a kid" than having the fastest car for the money haha But this is also the Corvette I've wanted them to make since I first got into cars in the late 1990s lol
 

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The demand for the C8 will be insane. I can only imagine the initial dealer markups. That said there will be 1st year production kinks to work out, no doubt.

With a supercharged LS2 version, which Chevrolet will no doubt produce, the C8 will be about the same weight with double the power and torque of the RS. That's insane! I was thinking, oh yeah it's RWD so getting that power to the ground will be a challenge BUT with the mid-engine design, nope that's most likely not an issue.

Truely great times we are living in!
It won't be supercharged.

GM is going to a twin turbo setup for the big boy C8. CAD images have already been leaked. Its going to be dubbed the LT7.

The LT7 is going to be a DOHC 4.2L TT V8. Massive departure from the Gen5 SBC.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07/twin-turbo-v8-lt7-engine-for-c8-corvette-z06-leaks/

 

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IMO, not attractive to me. I get why GM is doing this, because there wasn't enough about the current Corvette to make it worth the money over a SS 1LE. That being said, this thing is getting way far away from why some folks liked the Corvette.

A lot of performance for the money, but it just isn't what I want. Although to be honest, even the current C7 generation I don't like. The C6 was the last generation I really enjoyed due to the simplicity of it. I'm not a fan of the new direction injection SBC's either. I'd take a LS3 or LS7 any day of the week, and if they go DOHC they've lost me.
 

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IMO, not attractive to me. I get why GM is doing this, because there wasn't enough about the current Corvette to make it worth the money over a SS 1LE. That being said, this thing is getting way far away from why some folks liked the Corvette.

A lot of performance for the money, but it just isn't what I want. Although to be honest, even the current C7 generation I don't like. The C6 was the last generation I really enjoyed due to the simplicity of it. I'm not a fan of the new direction injection SBC's either. I'd take a LS3 or LS7 any day of the week, and if they go DOHC they've lost me.
LoL, the SS 1LE is great, but it in no way compares to a GrandSport C7.
 

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IMO, not attractive to me. I get why GM is doing this, because there wasn't enough about the current Corvette to make it worth the money over a SS 1LE. That being said, this thing is getting way far away from why some folks liked the Corvette.

A lot of performance for the money, but it just isn't what I want. Although to be honest, even the current C7 generation I don't like. The C6 was the last generation I really enjoyed due to the simplicity of it. I'm not a fan of the new direction injection SBC's either. I'd take a LS3 or LS7 any day of the week, and if they go DOHC they've lost me.
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Only deal breaker for me is no manual transmission will be offered.

I understand that in many cars, the automatic tranny is "faster", but IMO is just not as much fun, less driver involvement.
My guess is the Z06 etc is the more race oriented and will have more power and the manual tranny...


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It is going to be really exciting to see what they do to evolve this platform. I am really liking the design and the performance numbers so far. Well played, GM...well played
 

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This car is coming down under.
Woooooot

Can't wait.
The Mid-Engine C8 Corvette Has 495 HP And Hits 60 MPH In Under 3.0 Seconds



Folks, it's finally here: The 2020 Corvette Stingray, the first of the C8 generation, and the long,*long-anticipated beginning of the 'Vette's mid-engine era. Chevy just debuted the car at a press event in Southern California, and revealed performance specs for the very first time. Here's what you need to know about the new generation of Corvette.

The car presented to journalists today is the C8 Stingray, the base model of the new generation. It's powered by a 6.2-liter naturally aspirated V-8, dubbed the familiar LT2, now producing 495 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque when equipped with the optional performance exhaust. Yep, that makes the C8 Stingray the most powerful base-model Corvette ever.

It's also the quickest: Chevy didn't provide exact performance numbers, but the automaker did say that the C8 Stingray will do 0-60 in less than three seconds when equipped with the Z51 Performance Package. That is astoundingly fast—on par with the earliest Bugatti Veyron—and it's a testament to the capabilities made possible by the switch to the mid-engine layout. Remember, Corvette engineers have been saying for years that they'd maxed out the acceleration capabilities of the front-mid-engine C7 chassis. This huge improvement in acceleration puts the base-model C8 Stingray on par with the top-dog C7 ZR1, the 755-horsepower, huge-downforce, supercharged-to-hell monster of the previous generation.

Undoubtedly, a lot of this acceleration capability comes down to transmission. The C8 is the first Corvette to offer a dual-clutch automatic, an eight-speed unit designed by Tremec. Yes, it's the only transmission available on the mid-engine Corvette: For the first time since the very earliest days of the model, you can't get a manual transmission in a new Corvette. To purists, this may seem like an abandoning of principles. But the dual-clutch allows for the hypercar-like acceleration we mentioned—Chevy boasts that the new 'Vette has a super-low first gear and close ratios between gears two through six for ultimate acceleration. An electronic limited-slip differential and launch control further boost traction and acceleration. One neat feature: In any gear, at any speed, pulling both shift paddles simultaneously will disengage the clutches. We all know what that's for: revving the engine at stoplights to impress bystanders and intimidate drivers of lesser performance machines.

Of course, a Corvette is meant to handle as well as accelerate, and the C8 offers big changes here too. First and foremost: No more leaf springs. The C8 uses coilover springs and monotube shocks, a rather conventional setup that's mainly notable because of how long the 'Vette used a signature arrangement of transverse composite leafs. The C8 is available with Magnetic Ride Control 4.0, an updated version of GM's excellent adaptive magnetorheological damper system that promises faster, smoother responses to changing road surface conditions. The reconfigured driveline places the engine's crankshaft centerline an inch lower than it was in the C7, lowering the car's center of gravity for improved handling. The front splitter and rear spoiler contribute up to 400 lbs of downforce.

The available Z51 Performance Package offers a host of upgrades to the Stingray, including a performance-tuned suspension with adjustable threaded spring seats (presumably for tailoring ride height and corner weighting for track applications), bigger brake rotors, a shorter axle ratio, the aforementioned performance exhaust, and enhanced engine and brake cooling. GM's Performance Data Recorder, with driver-analysis data and a dashboard camera for reviewing your trackday performance, is also available.

The C8 will have expanded driving modes, with six presets compared to the current car's four: Weather, Tour, Sport, Track, plus an individually-configurable MyMode and the new Z Mode. That final mode is named for the Z51, Z06 and ZR1 performance models known to Corvette aficionados, and offers further individualized configuring of chassis, engine and transmission parameters, accessible through a new "Z" button on the steering wheel. Performance Traction Management, the advanced multi-mode traction and stability control system with five levels of increasingly-lax intervention for track driving, is once again available.

If all of this sounds exotic and European, fear not: GM made sure to include the daily-driver features that made the C7 such a well-rounded machine. The hardtop C8 features a removable targa roof panel that fits in the rear trunk, and Chevy assures us that rear cargo area is spacious enough for your golf clubs. In addition, a front trunk offers enough room for "an airline-spec carry-on and a laptop bag." While the C8's cockpit has moved 16.5 inches forward compared to the C7, the car doesn't have the wide doorsills commonly associated with mid-engine vehicles. Entering and exiting the C8 is just as easy and graceful as it was in the C7, and there's more room to adjust the seats rearward or recline them further. A front suspension lift raises the C8's nose by 40mm in less than three seconds for easier navigation of rough roads and steep driveways. The system operates at speeds up to 24 mph, and can be programmed to automatically lift the nose in up to 1000 locations identified by the GPS system.

Additionally, this is the first Corvette that will be available in right-hand drive, allowing Chevy to consider exporting the car to even more markets.

The 2020 Corvette Stingray will go into production at Bowling Green Assembly, the Corvette's traditional birthplace, later this year. Chevy didn't give specific pricing information at the time of the vehicle's launch, but we expect the C8 won't stray far from the pricing strategy of the C7. With all this additional performance and a revolutionary new chassis and layout, the C8 seems poised to take the Corvette's value proposition to the next level.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mid-engine-c8-corvette-495-031500136.html
 

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There won't be much as far as dealer markups. I've been following the C8 rumors/leaks/etc closely for nearly a year. Most of the big time Corvette dealers have been promising to sell the car at MSRP. The Corvette isn't like the RS, Chevy is going to build as many as they can sell. Nothing limited production about it, especially the base car and the Z51. They typically sell about 35,000 vettes a year. There will be more than enough to go around. There will probably be some early cases of a markup, but it won't last long.
That's exactly right, you might have to wait 3 months after they hit the floor to get it at msrp.
 

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The first time I ever drove a Dual Clutch Transmission was when the company I work for bought a brand new International, single Axle day cab Tractor.

The Allison Automatic Transmission on this thing is very impressive. It's amazing how you have two clutch engagements per gear and the truck just goes and goes thus DCT.

When I drive Bob Tail in it, it's like a drag car, all that beautiful Diesel Torque with DCT just moves you. Most people don't expect a Tractor to move so fast.

So, I think this DCT in the New Corvette is a beautiful thing. Would be nice to have the Manual Option though.

If and when they decide to go AWD Twin Turbo, I'll rethink my Fandom on the GTR.
 

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Thing is a sexy beast. If I didn't have kids and require 4 doors, I'd totally go for this (or the gt350r). Not sure why anyone would consider the marked up toyota/z4 hybrid when this is available.
 

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Toyota execs after the C8's pricing went live.

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@mchart are you also a Harley Davidson rider?
No, i'm a C6 Z06 owner, a former Focus RS owner, 2015 M6 Chevy SS owner, and a Charger Hellcat owner.

I can see why some people would be interested in this new Corvette, but i'm not. It's gotten too complex.

I hate Harley's BTW.
 

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LoL, the SS 1LE is great, but it in no way compares to a GrandSport C7.
Stock, you're correct.

But when you consider the $25k difference, that's a lot of money.

$20k in a 1LE will destroy the C7 on the track.

Not that GM will get my money with either these days, because i'm done with GM and their new direction. My Z06 and SS are the last GM products i'll own, and I was a GM guy for decades.
 
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