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Maybe it's not a big deal to any of you, but after reading one of the reviews I discovered the disturbing fact that our RSs will have FAKE engine noise put through the sound system. Disabling that stupid, hateful feature will be my first project on my RS now
 

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Maybe it's not a big deal to any of you, but after reading one of the reviews I discovered the disturbing fact that our RSs will have FAKE engine noise put through the sound system. Disabling that stupid, hateful feature will be my first project on my RS now
Source? I think you're extremely misinformed. The ST, among other cars, has a sound symposer which basically redirects the REAL engine sound towards the cabin via a tube in the engine bay, NOT IN THE SPEAKERS. If the RS has this too then it can be removed so stop worrying if it's not your thing.
 

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Source? I think you're extremely misinformed. The ST, among other cars, has a sound symposer which basically redirects the REAL engine sound towards the cabin via a tube in the engine bay, NOT IN THE SPEAKERS. If the RS has this too then it can be removed so stop worrying if it's not your thing.
It's from the pistonheads review. I don't mind the pipe in type, that at least uses the real sound of your engine
 

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MK2 RS with a great sounding engine has a symposer (fake noise) in it aswell I have been told. I think it is to give the driver a more exciting driving experience.
 

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Looking at the engine bay images, it seems it doesn't use the ST Symposer, because its a modified Mustang Engine I would think it would be the audio file based on RPM piped through the speakers

I don't think the Mustang can get rid of it unless you replace or disable the head unit

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RS2SG,

So let me understand your terminology and other related terminology.

Amplified Engine Noise - actual engine noise is taken as input and made louder (amplified) or otherwise electronically enhanced (e.g. bass and low frequency amplitude increased) - I think this is similar to the Sound Symposer in the ST and what Ford is actually doing. :eek:nthego:

Fake Engine Noise - Do you mean (1) recording another engine sound and playing it through audio in the RS ? or (2) a fully synthesized sound generated electronically independent of the RS engine sound. I tend to think it would be the former only and the latter would be considered Synthetic Engine Noise :triumphant:

Synthetic Engine Noise - See number (2) above. fully electronically synthesized independent of engine noise. :soap:

Externally Amplified Exhaust noise - Putting on larger freer flow mufflers and larger diameter exhaust tips. Do you consider this fake engine noise, but it does very little if anything to increase horsepower or performance :wink-new:

Actually, you can find solutions to reduce or eliminate engine sound volume or engine sound volume enhancements if that is your desire :pirate:


So why does Ford do it ? because 4-cylinder turbos don't sound like mighty V-8s even though the RS will be able to trounce most of them :)



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Maybe it's not a big deal to any of you, but after reading one of the reviews I discovered the disturbing fact that our RSs will have FAKE engine noise put through the sound system. Disabling that stupid, hateful feature will be my first project on my RS now
Two fixes: open the windows to hear the real engine note or blast the radio!
 

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Looking at the engine bay images, it seems it doesn't use the ST Symposer, because its a modified Mustang Engine I would think it would be the audio file based on RPM piped through the speakers

I don't think the Mustang can get rid of it unless you replace or disable the head unit

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So 2 things:
a) lol, so it's like a video game?
b) we should be able to replace the sound with something else for comical effect
 

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Straight pipe or cherry bombs FTW!
 

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I know they do it on the ST, but I don't think they will need it on the RS. Ide be shocked if they did as they don't need to artificially pump in engine noise to make it exude awsomeness. If they did it would be the first thing I would remove.
 

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Glass Packs :D No seriously , it would nice to have a nice open muffler, like a Magnaflow or Flowmaster and still retain the ability to change sound level though an exhaust valve like OEM between drive modes.

YMMV,

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RS2SG,

So let me understand your terminology and other related terminology.

Amplified Engine Noise - actual engine noise is taken as input and made louder (amplified) or otherwise electronically enhanced (e.g. bass and low frequency amplitude increased) - I think this is similar to the Sound Symposer in the ST and what Ford is actually doing. :eek:nthego:

Fake Engine Noise - Do you mean (1) recording another engine sound and playing it through audio in the RS ? or (2) a fully synthesized sound generated electronically independent of the RS engine sound. I tend to think it would be the former only and the latter would be considered Synthetic Engine Noise :triumphant:

Synthetic Engine Noise - See number (2) above. fully electronically synthesized independent of engine noise. :soap:

Externally Amplified Exhaust noise - Putting on larger freer flow mufflers and larger diameter exhaust tips. Do you consider this fake engine noise, but it does very little if anything to increase horsepower or performance :wink-new:

Actually, you can find solutions to reduce or eliminate engine sound volume or engine sound volume enhancements if that is your desire :pirate:


So why does Ford do it ? because 4-cylinder turbos don't sound like mighty V-8s even though the RS will be able to trounce most of them :)



Peace, YMMV,

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Lots of responses, I figured I would address yours first, @MidCow3. Based on your 4 options, it would be 3.

I actually have no problem with the amplified engine noise like in the ST, because it is at least sound that is coming from your engine. That and the one car I test drove with it, a 2016 STi (don't stone me to death please) had it and it actually sounded pretty good.

As for 2 (fake engine noise) that concept is absurd to me, although Renault actually does something like this in the Clio which gives you SIX fake engine sounds to choose from. These include a 2012 Nissan GT-R, a Renault 8 Gordini, a Renaultsport Clio Cup, a Clio V6, a 1971 Moto GP bike, an Alpine A110, and some funky Renault concept for 2038 (faking the sound of a fake car!!!).

And who would EVER have a problem with 4?!

I know its standard procedure nowadays, but I want my engine to sound like my engine and my sound system to play music and nothing else. If your sound system is doing double duty then you lose sound quality in your music. That's why I have such a problem with it. Call me a purist or old fashioned, but I'd rather have a "worse" engine sound in my cabin than have something artificial played through my speakers.
 

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Two fixes: open the windows to hear the real engine note or blast the radio!
It's a great idea in the summer. But as Brady Joke would say, "this is Michigan" and we get these things called obnoxious cold and driving snow for about a 3rd or so of the year so I can't really do that all the time.
 

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One review of all of them mentioned this, im not convinced.
 

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Glass Packs :D No seriously , it would nice to have a nice open muffler, like a Magnaflow or Flowmaster and still retain the ability to change sound level though an exhaust valve like OEM between drive modes.

YMMV,

MidCow3
This is why I plan on just doing a downpipe :)
 

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I'm not sure why this is a huge deal. It could be if the system used is very complex and can't be disabled with out disabling something else. I'm thinking they will use some type of mic that can surely be disconnected or snipped if need be.
 
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