[Exist2Resist]

There is rumor in the wind that the RS AWD system has some performance issues, can anyone elaborate on this?

EDIT: Sorry for the title typo.

 

[MidCow3]

There is rumor in the wind that the RS AWD system has some performance issues, can anyone elaborate on this?

Can you be more specific about the RS AWD performance issues rumor?



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[Noodles]

Everything is a rumor right now. Nobody outside of Ford has actually driven the car. But if you care to elaborate, there are several people with ties to Ford on here that might be able to shed some light.

 

[Bluebyutoo]

Sounds like a rumor started by Subaru

 

[rambo3500]

Yeah ok. No one outside of Ford has driven the RS so lets not start spreading baloney about AWD issues till that happens, K?

 

[RocketRS]

There is rumor in the wind that the RS AWD system has some performance issues, can anyone elaborate on this?

I think this rumor came from reports that the RS was breaking things when it was in the initial testing with the Evoke Twinster. Jim Fritz and the GKN guys freely admitted that they broke just about every part of that system, and that the RS Twinster is now a bespoke unit.

 

[KingZee]

There are no issues with the RS AWD system that anyone knows of. I haven't really heard such a rumor. Also, fixed your title

 

[rambo3500]

Sounds like a rumor started by Subaru

Yeah Subaru with their decade old EJ257 engine under the hood of the brand spankin new 2015/2016 STI is one to talk. Glad I'm for sure getting an RS now so I don't have to worry about ringland failures and blown headgaskets not being covered under warranty

 

[krote6]

Rumour probally comes from the videos when they say the first attempt at the RDN failed. Which was the off the shelf unit used in the Range rovers. The current RDN is a new one designed for the RS which fixed the issues they found

 

[Exist2Resist]

I believe it's a control issue where the AWD system doesn't perform like it's supposed to and impedes the vehicles performance.
For all I know this could be fixed via firmware/software by the time the car lands.
I'll try to get more details if I can.

EDIT: Supposedly when the AWD system is put through any sort of persistent performance scenario the split is uneven between the wheels, and it’s not performing up to the 70% on the rear and losing power.

 

[SCHN3LL]

Sounds legit.

Brb, cancelling my order.

 

[RocketRS]

I believe it's a control issue where the AWD system doesn't perform like it's supposed to and impedes the vehicles performance.
For all I know this could be fixed via firmware/software by the time the car lands.
I'll try to get more details if I can.

EDIT: Supposedly when the AWD system is put through any sort of persistent performance scenario the split is uneven between the wheels, and it’s not performing up to the 70% on the rear and losing power.

Yeah, you don't need to get more details on the rumor; you need more details on who said it and what their credentials are.

 

[RocketRS]

Sounds legit.

Brb, cancelling my order.

Too good.

 

[Exist2Resist]

It's a Ford employee, but that doesn't matter.
I wanted to know if there was any credibility to the story or rumor and if anyone else know any more about this.
Which in the end doesn't really matter because I don't buy first year production runs anyways.

 

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[Crooked Letta]

It's a Ford employee, but that doesn't matter.
I wanted to know if there was any credibility to the story or rumor and if anyone else know any more about this.

Are you basically saying that the RS when pushed hard doesn't use the AWD system to it's full potential? It does have thermal safety nets in place, but Ford have openly stated the RS should handle 30 mins of track time with no issues.

 

[Exist2Resist]

Sounds legit.

Brb, cancelling my order.

You probably should considering you'll be buying an upgraded ST package sans AWD.

 

[Exist2Resist]

Are you basically saying that the RS when pushed hard doesn't use the AWD system to it's full potential? It does have thermal safety nets in place, but Ford have openly stated the RS should handle 30 mins of track time with no issues.

What I take from it is: Power distribution not as advertised, no persistent power to rear axle or it tapers off, and power distribution between wheels is off.

 

[rambo3500]

You probably should considering you'll be buying an upgraded ST package sans AWD.

You seem to be another one of those who comes on here only to speak negatively of the RS and claim that it is a waste of money over the ST. Get out of here dude. This is the official Focus RS forum for RS enthusiasts and we don't need that kind of negativity.

 

[Crooked Letta]

What I take from it is: Power distribution not as advertised, no persistent power to rear axle or it tapers off, and power distribution between wheels is off.

We have heard nothing that would relate to this. The system is constantly varying TQ output and placement, I'm not sure what it uses to ensure that it's targets are met though and properly being distributed.