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    My RS is a Lemon

    My fellow people, I'm sad to say my RS is a lemon... But I have a choice to keep the car or get rid of it, but first I'm looking for your help!!!

    Here is my story, I purchased my car with 7k miles on it and post recall work. That being said around 10k miles mark, my CEL came on which I took to Ford.... In total that happened 3 times with the same result, they blamed it on something stupid like a loose intake clamp. The 4th time they finally took me seriously, they took the engine apart. They found a cracked cam shaft, when they removed the can shaft, a chunk of it fell out. The mechanic said that the broken piece fell off when he removed the shaft. Their explanation was that the technician that did the head gasket recall screwed up the reinstallation of the cam which caused it to crack.

    That being said, I started the lemon law suit because at the time I was driving a loaner more than my RS and was PISSED!!! Fast forward to today, apparently Ford would like to settle, give me cash for compensation. Now that means I get to keep the car. If I decide to continue to fight I may lose the suit since the car now is fine and has had no issues. I wanted out of this car, but I love it too much. My concern is future damages that could've came from this cam shaft issues. Is it possible that shrapnel could've gotten into the engine? Or other issues from this? I need help and advice. This is a very serious issue.

    What do I do?
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    Ouch! Can you lemon law a used car? Is it really a lemon if it was a bad repair that made the car fail?
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    Take the settlement and keep the car, put the money into a full panda motorworks build. Win win?
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    I'm not interested in doing a whole engine rebuild at the moment to be honest... And yes I can do a lemon law, I'm still under Ford warrantee and covered. The minimal case to qualify is 3 visits or 20 days at the shop. I have 4 visits AND 30 days.... You guys think that my concern is justified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 320icar View Post
    Take the settlement and keep the car, put the money into a full panda motorworks build. Win win?
    The settlement money might not be nearly enough anyway, waiting to hear back from my lawyers

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    What was Fords solution? Metal through the engine should either be a full rebuild, or replacement of the entire engine for peace of mind.

    Lemon law probably does not apply to you, its usually for brand new cars. Your issue is with the dealership that performed the work and sold the car which the powertrain warranty and dealerships own insurance should cover as the work was performed by them that lead to a failure.

    You can take the money if you want, but you are better off asking for a full replacement engine. My bet is you signed the waiver that precludes the option of suing them and restricts you to arbitration. I never sign the arbitration agreement.

    https://kaselllawfirm.wordpress.com/...ion-agreement/

    Further options would be to speak with your insurance agent, and possibly the lender who has the title for the car. Its in the lenders interest to insure the repair is one that will be lasting and not depreciate the asset.

    Dealer who did the shoddy work should eat the cost of a replacement engine. Brand new long block from Ford.
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    thought lemon was limited to first owner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdgen89gta View Post
    What was Fords solution? Metal through the engine should either be a full rebuild, or replacement of the entire engine for peace of mind.

    Lemon law probably does not apply to you, its usually for brand new cars. Your issue is with the dealership that performed the work and sold the car which the powertrain warranty and dealerships own insurance should cover as the work was performed by them that lead to a failure.

    You can take the money if you want, but you are better off asking for a full replacement engine. My bet is you signed the waiver that precludes the option of suing them and restricts you to arbitration. I never sign the arbitration agreement.

    https://kaselllawfirm.wordpress.com/...ion-agreement/

    Further options would be to speak with your insurance agent, and possibly the lender who has the title for the car. Its in the lenders interest to insure the repair is one that will be lasting and not depreciate the asset.

    Dealer who did the shoddy work should eat the cost of a replacement engine. Brand new long block from Ford.

    I'm currently in a suit which I have a great case for... This isn't about should I file for one, I'm currently in one. Ford's solution was to just replace the cam. That's all they did you my knowledge... Even if they did more, I don't trust the dealers mechanics because they wanted to blame the issue on " an after market intake was probably installed and the stock one was put back on when you purchased it. During that they probably didn't tighten a clamp all the way"... Not to mention when I got the car back, it literally died on my twice because the idiot didn't tighten the screw on the battery terminal. Most incompetent employees ever.

    My next move is to wait to hear back from my lawyer with a counter offer. I will see how much they will settle for, at that time I feel like asking for a rebuild, leak down test, or I have no idea what else. This is why I'm here. To see what this issue could cause in the future that I should look out for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sicretta View Post
    thought lemon was limited to first owner?
    No...I thought so too, I also thought that since I didn't buy it from Ford IT would be an issue... But was wrong about that too

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    Whether it's okay to keep the car depends on what was done to repair the problem. At minimum a top half inspection would be required to ensure nothing else wasn't repaired properly. The assembly that the cam was driving would have to be checked as well but I doubt it is serviceable, i.e., replaced.

    Provided it can be verified the pieces have been recoved, the oil filter will catch particles resulting from the damaged part. I would cut open the filter and inspect that as well.

    That said, depending how long the car has been running since repair, some of the above may not apply anymore either from time or an issue would have presented itself.

    Overall, I'd be inclined to settle depending on what was done in regards to the above mentioned items.

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