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This is a discussion on Euro Rear Fog Light Installation within the Focus RS Lighting forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; Damn this take the switched ground possibility out I guess! Will check pins 9, 12 and 13 next time I can work on the car ...

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    Damn this take the switched ground possibility out I guess!

    Will check pins 9, 12 and 13 next time I can work on the car for a few hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlNode View Post
    The book appears to have multiple markets info in it, I know it is for my car though as it has Sync3 info, NA was only market with that in 2016. But in the same logic it list non-Sync3 info, and we know all of NA RS came with Sync3 only.

    This info is more of test at owe risk: The wiring for the rear fog does not show these pins as related, but looking at the C2280B connector view there are several pins in addition to 10(RD-BK) that show that same Circuit ID (CLS45) and list (FOG LIGHT REAR +) as the function. Pins 9(WH-GN), 12(VT-GN) and 13(VT-GN).
    More Info on those pins from section 90 and shows the connector view info to be misleading:
    C2280B
    9 - Stop Right Rear
    12 - Stop Left Rear
    13 - Park Right Rear

    The the diagrams in 90 can't even agree on how the rear lights are wired, on page 90-3 it has them as pins 19 and 20 of C2280B, but the connector view has those as open, but on page 93-1 it has reverse going through C2280E (pins 19 and 20), the connector view for C2280E shows these are for Rear Fog lights.

    Basically Ford has released the most **** Electrical Diagram I've every really looked at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlNode View Post

    More Info on those pins from section 90 and shows the connector view info to be misleading:
    C2280B
    9 - Stop Right Rear
    12 - Stop Left Rear
    13 - Park Right Rear

    The the diagrams in 90 can't even agree on how the rear lights are wired, on page 90-3 it has them as pins 19 and 20 of C2280B, but the connector view has those as open, but on page 93-1 it has reverse going through C2280E (pins 19 and 20), the connector view for C2280E shows these are for Rear Fog lights.

    Basically Ford has released the most **** Electrical Diagram I've every really looked at.
    Crap now there are even more possibilities based on which section you refer to! That does sound like a pretty bad wiring manual indeed, hopefully one or the other set of info is right!

    And now I remember how I left connector C2280E and C2280F in that scrap focus thinking I would not need them, I threw them on the backseat guess maybe I should go back and grab them just in case the pins are different and have some spare plastic casings in case I crack one during dismantling!

    Curious to check if there are pins at C2280E 19/20 now! Will check this too next time. Would be too good to be true if that turns out to be the right pins!

    Thanks again for helping me you’re definitely dedicated to providing helpful info and making this work this is appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barroux View Post
    Crap now there are even more possibilities based on which section you refer to! That does sound like a pretty bad wiring manual indeed, hopefully one or the other set of info is right!

    And now I remember how I left connector C2280E and C2280F in that scrap focus thinking I would not need them, I threw them on the backseat guess maybe I should go back and grab them just in case the pins are different and have some spare plastic casings in case I crack one during dismantling!

    Curious to check if there are pins at C2280E 19/20 now! Will check this too next time. Would be too good to be true if that turns out to be the right pins!

    Thanks again for helping me you’re definitely dedicated to providing helpful info and making this work this is appreciated!
    I think pins 19 and 20 are the reverse lights, but in one area it shows them on C2280B, and in another in C2280E. Then in the Connector view it appears that they coded all lights to the rear of the car as Rear Fog Lamp just to make it confusing. Just bad info, should be labelled right.

    Also, looking here it makes it sound very likely that a software change is also needed.
    Last edited by ControlNode; 02-25-2019 at 11:19 PM. Reason: forscan note.
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    @Barroux see PM. I referenced those old wiring diagrams before I bought the ebay book and they're not correct for our car.
    If you buy one, drive it hard. Because thrills like these don’t happen often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillofoc View Post
    @Barroux see PM. I referenced those old wiring diagrams before I bought the ebay book and they're not correct for our car.
    Thanks for your PM, just replied a few minutes ago!

    Thanks for your help I wont be working on the car itself for a few days life and work are keeping me busy these days, but I’ll sure plan the next trials as much as possible reading through what you guys provided in tha last few days!

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    Oh and I received my diffuser yesterday but all but maybe one mounting tabs are broken which was not mentionned in the add and obviously when I asked about any damage they did not mention this either! Will be looking at my local plastic welding shop to fix those before installation. I got it for cheap so it’s still worth it if they can fix it, the whole tabs are there but broken at one or the other edge from being pried off the bumper cover I guess.

    Otherwise it looks pretty good it only has one small scratch which will be barely noticeable once installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlNode View Post

    I think pins 19 and 20 are the reverse lights, but in one area it shows them on C2280B, and in another in C2280E. Then in the Connector view it appears that they coded all lights to the rear of the car as Rear Fog Lamp just to make it confusing. Just bad info, should be labelled right.

    Also, looking here it makes it sound very likely that a software change is also needed.
    I started looking at the other forums with Forscan info they all refer to the same line but my asbuilt info from ford did not have this line. I’ll have to request a new trial license and connect to my car to see what I can find there. I think the link you posted is specific to front fogs though but there is info about Mustangs on the Forscan forums and info on Fusion forums about the rear fog. They all refer to the same line which hopefully would be the same for the Focus. It has been confirmed on the Fusion (with supporting wiring mods) but I dont remember seing any success story about the Mustangs...

    I went back to the scrap yard and picked the two connectors C2280E and C2280F in case I need anything from those at some point.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barroux View Post
    I started looking at the other forums with Forscan info they all refer to the same line but my asbuilt info from ford did not have this line. I’ll have to request a new trial license and connect to my car to see what I can find there. I think the link you posted is specific to front fogs though but there is info about Mustangs on the Forscan forums and info on Fusion forums about the rear fog. They all refer to the same line which hopefully would be the same for the Focus. It has been confirmed on the Fusion (with supporting wiring mods) but I dont remember seing any success story about the Mustangs...

    I went back to the scrap yard and picked the two connectors C2280E and C2280F in case I need anything from those at some point.

    Thanks
    If you look at the options in this picture from that page one of the options is "foglight rear".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlNode View Post

    If you look at the options in this picture from that page one of the options is "foglight rear".
    Oups I missed that when I looked at it the other day!

    Weird how the same menu has options for both front and rear fog!

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