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This is a discussion on DSC Sport Active Suspension Controller AVAILABLE NOW! within the Focus RS Suspension forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; As Harris says, driving style pays a big part of this, not that I've encountered any more understeer than a stock car. I some times ...

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    As Harris says, driving style pays a big part of this, not that I've encountered any more understeer than a stock car. I some times wonder if people drive it like a FWD car and trail the throttle deep into the corner, expecting lift over over steer. To do that is wasting the RS's trick feature of torque vectoring, use the power and throttle to balance the car and any over/understeer. Steer it with the throttle. Switch to track mode, which is many's preferred mode over here on the UK's B roads, as that gives the car again another balance, more agile very quick!
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    As per Harris and 9Designs say have to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9designs View Post
    Have to say either standard or DSC equipped, I've not understood or got the understeer comments, I suppose if I turned in and stayed on a trailing throttle the steering weights up, but then to me that's a waste of the torque vectoring system to drive it like a FWD car. As I turn in I feed in the power and steer it with the power, no under steer and great sling shot onto the next straight. DSC + Yellow Mountune springs is an awesome combination if full damper package is out of reach.
    Have you driven the car on a track with semi or full slicks at all?

    Edit: to expand on the comment, in general - in stock suspension or aftermarket - I have experienced a lot more understeer, while on the throttle, when driving at the track in conditions with much more grip than the road. In my opinion, for this car to be driven seriously on the track, it desperately needs a stiffer rear sway bar. That improves the balance a lot.
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    All I'm comparing 'controller only' to is the stock setup. IMO with the stock setup , the throttle may be 'mashed' wherever you are in a corner. Of course the stock system has no compliance, and is thus fatally flawed.

    However the 'controller only' does improve the ride quality!

    No doubt with a more optimized suspension setup, driving style comes to the fore.
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    Well I think posts that say "the module causes understeer" is very misleading to people when that actually means on a track with slick sticky tyres, which 99% owners will never do. Here in the UK on our roads you can only use the Normal damper mode with the stock controller. Sport is just unusable, so adding DSC module opens up a wider range of damping with it's ability to work between the two ranges. The handling, balance and ride improves, the car feels to me less nervous and less pitching about on a bumpy road, feels safer and more secure.
    If your a track master then yeah okay, stay with the stock controller because your going to switch to Sport/firm all the time anyway and not care about the ride on a smooth surface track, you don't need the DSC to vary the dampers automatically. Or write/modify your own maps for the DSC to behave how you want in track mode, not tried it but I guess you could tweak the Track map to be permanently set to hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9designs View Post
    Well I think posts that say "the module causes understeer" is very misleading to people when that actually means on a track with slick sticky tyres, which 99% owners will never do. Here in the UK on our roads you can only use the Normal damper mode with the stock controller. Sport is just unusable, so adding DSC module opens up a wider range of damping with it's ability to work between the two ranges. The handling, balance and ride improves, the car feels to me less nervous and less pitching about on a bumpy road, feels safer and more secure.
    If your a track master then yeah okay, stay with the stock controller because your going to switch to Sport/firm all the time anyway and not care about the ride on a smooth surface track, you don't need the DSC to vary the dampers automatically. Or write/modify your own maps for the DSC to behave how you want in track mode, not tried it but I guess you could tweak the Track map to be permanently set to hard.
    I have never used the DSC controller so I can't comment on that but in your previous post you said that "either standard or DSC equipped, I've not understood or got the understeer comment". To that I answered that in my experience on a track, both with the stock and an aftermarket suspension, the car understeers a lot more than I expected compared to road driving. Also, I am not talking about slick tires only here, even with Cup 2s it still pushes, particularly on mid - high speed corners. The rear sway bar helped a lot with that.
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    Not sure if you guys have taken the rake out of the car, but my suspension guy told me yesterday that you need the rake to prevent the phenomena that you guys are discussing. I know many are running lowering springs or Mountune yellows which eliminate the rake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillofoc View Post
    Not sure if you guys have taken the rake out of the car, but my suspension guy told me yesterday that you need the rake to prevent the phenomena that you guys are discussing. I know many are running lowering springs or Mountune yellows which eliminate the rake.
    Yeah, this a great point. I have experimented with ride height on my car, and lessen the rake equals understeer
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillofoc View Post
    Not sure if you guys have taken the rake out of the car, but my suspension guy told me yesterday that you need the rake to prevent the phenomena that you guys are discussing. I know many are running lowering springs or Mountune yellows which eliminate the rake.
    You are right about that, eliminating the rake makes the issue worse (talking from experience), but as I mentioned in 2 posts, the stock setup also suffers from more understeer than my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White-RS2 View Post
    Have to say I had to wait but they arrived.

    As you know more than a few have been unhappy with the lack of adjustment in the rear of the DSC Tractive setup.

    Well sent an email or two to Tractive who where very concerned to this short fall in the spec and at the time they had now order a batch of lower rear springs which they then sent me a set FOC so I guess they’ll be fitted next week.

    Happy days and a Massive Thank you to the Tractive Suspension guys for all their help and input . A Big Thumbs Up
    Is this true?? Because this would be an amazing development. I've been very happy with the DSC Controller + Tractive Suspension with everythign except the rear's height, even from far it looks wrong. Not trying to lower it, just get it back to stock height. Any updates on fitment?
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