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This is a discussion on Ford revised dampers improve handling and ride. within the Focus RS Suspension forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; Confirmed mine have Rev2 and not as bad compared to the previous versions. the Sport mode though is still pogo'ish...

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    Confirmed mine have Rev2 and not as bad compared to the previous versions.

    the Sport mode though is still pogo'ish
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    Looks like I have Rev 1 fronts and Rev 1 rears. I was looking to get Mountune Springs but now I'm debating getting Rev 2 fronts but I am bot sure how big the difference is from Rev 1 to Rev 2
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    It's worth noting for this discussion that since we don't know what was changed or why, it's not for certain that Rev 2 was softer than Rev1. Since no one has tested them both on their car, let alone on a shock dyno, for all we know they did Rev 2 to dial back how soft they went with Rev 1.

    From a manufacturing standpoint, I'd be surprised if they actually made a spec change six months later to re-adjust the damping again. Most likely the change for Rev 2 was related to a change for reliability or cost, the sort of things that MFGs work on mid-year on a car that's in its last year of production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWA View Post
    It's worth noting for this discussion that since we don't know what was changed or why, it's not for certain that Rev 2 was softer than Rev1. Since no one has tested them both on their car, let alone on a shock dyno, for all we know they did Rev 2 to dial back how soft they went with Rev 1.

    From a manufacturing standpoint, I'd be surprised if they actually made a spec change six months later to re-adjust the damping again. Most likely the change for Rev 2 was related to a change for reliability or cost, the sort of things that MFGs work on mid-year on a car that's in its last year of production.
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    2018 RS, build date supposedly 9/2017 - had mine checked while getting oil change/tires rotated. Went back to the parts department and was able to determine mine was 2 revisions old. So went ahead and pulled the trigger and bought them. I could have saved maybe another $100 or so searching around online but I could get them 2-3 days right from there and I knew I wouldn't have any problems returning if I had to or they were the wrong part. So, paid for some convenience there. My rear struts were the most recent revision.

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    The part stickers show 18124-X on the sticker, but it's E/F on the actual order form. Ford's just kind of weird between engineering labels and everything else I guess. I will have these installed in the next couple of weeks (also with mountune springs because why do the work twice) and will provide feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarrant64 View Post
    2018 RS, build date supposedly 9/2017 - had mine checked while getting oil change/tires rotated. Went back to the parts department and was able to determine mine was 2 revisions old. So went ahead and pulled the trigger and bought them. I could have saved maybe another $100 or so searching around online but I could get them 2-3 days right from there and I knew I wouldn't have any problems returning if I had to or they were the wrong part. So, paid for some convenience there. My rear struts were the most recent revision.

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    The part stickers show 18124-X on the sticker, but it's E/F on the actual order form. Ford's just kind of weird between engineering labels and everything else I guess. I will have these installed in the next couple of weeks (also with mountune springs because why do the work twice) and will provide feedback.
    Cool, but the feedback will unfortunately be pretty much worthless if you are updating the springs at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky phil View Post
    Cool, but the feedback will unfortunately be pretty much worthless if you are updating the springs at the same time.

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    My feedback will be revised dampers with springs - people are going to want to know different combinations of setups so that's additional feedback I will be able to provide. I see you're point with the multiple changes - I get it. But there's still some value from any kind of change and any feedback period. Considering there's enough posted already to know that for the most part springs alone has not resolved the pogo for a lot of people, just lessened it more. I suspect that just replacing the fronts with the new revision isn't enough to get people where they want to be for ride quality, and the springs as an addition (or some other entirely different solution like coilovers) is likely the best combo. Is there more value doing one at a time? Sure, but to be honest I don't think doing the work for the fronts twice for the sake of more feedback adds anymore value than what others already know. I'm also making an assumption, poor or not, that most people willing to go lengths to do the revision swap won't stop there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarrant64 View Post
    My feedback will be revised dampers with springs - people are going to want to know different combinations of setups so that's additional feedback I will be able to provide. I see you're point with the multiple changes - I get it. But there's still some value from any kind of change and any feedback period. Considering there's enough posted already to know that for the most part springs alone has not resolved the pogo for a lot of people, just lessened it more. I suspect that just replacing the fronts with the new revision isn't enough to get people where they want to be for ride quality, and the springs as an addition (or some other entirely different solution like coilovers) is likely the best combo. Is there more value doing one at a time? Sure, but to be honest I don't think doing the work for the fronts twice for the sake of more feedback adds anymore value than what others already know. I'm also making an assumption, poor or not, that most people willing to go lengths to do the revision swap won't stop there.
    I understand and this isnt a criticism but the problem is the internet is so very subjective anyway with comparisons as it is that introducing 2 changes just makes it even worse. I would like to know what the genuine back to back comparison is without spring changes and eliminate a confusing variable. But I can see it from your point with regards to the additional work involved.
    Personally what we need is the 2 different struts on a shock dyno, its the only real way. So if anyone is going to update and there is that facility near by it might be something to consider.
    Just because the strut has been updated doesnt mean its damping has been changed, updates can be for a million different reasons that have zero effect on ride. There could be some physiological stuff at play here. The shock dyno would eliminate that


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    Too bad the spring vendors haven't put their springs on the different variants and thrown them on a shock absorber dyno. They might sell more springs, and if they sell the springs preinstalled, can charge a small premium. It would certainly sway my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky phil View Post
    I understand and this isnt a criticism but the problem is the internet is so very subjective anyway with comparisons as it is that introducing 2 changes just makes it even worse. I would like to know what the genuine back to back comparison is without spring changes and eliminate a confusing variable. But I can see it from your point with regards to the additional work involved.
    Personally what we need is the 2 different struts on a shock dyno, its the only real way. So if anyone is going to update and there is that facility near by it might be something to consider.
    Just because the strut has been updated doesnt mean its damping has been changed, updates can be for a million different reasons that have zero effect on ride. There could be some physiological stuff at play here. The shock dyno would eliminate that


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    I agree, we’re just not always in a perfect world to get those results. “Butt dyno” a lot of the times so it’s only so reliable.

    So, do the shocks need to be on the car to be dynod properly or can that be done standalone? I have Speedway motors out here where I’m at and I think they can do that, at least I’ve seen it I think in a video without an actual car, just the shock in a machine testing.

    Also not sure how well they would work though if not attached to the RS since they are electronic.

    If that would work I have time to get the new revision tested pre install; and post install I can get the stock ones done and see if there’s differences.




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