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This is a discussion on Replaced the factory fill brake fluid within the Focus RS Brakes forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; Originally Posted by Moxman I totally agree with you on this subject. I've used all different types of brake bleeders, both pressure and vacuum, and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxman View Post
    I totally agree with you on this subject. I've used all different types of brake bleeders, both pressure and vacuum, and the vacuum bleeders tend to suck air from around the bleeder screw. Not a bad thing; just something to be aware of. Also, I'm pretty sure that the new Fords are all being factory-filled with DOT 4 LV (low viscosity) fluid. The LV fluid provides better performance in cold weather. I also agree that the Ate fluid is very high quality, German fluid as well as Pentosin fluid. Either would work just fine in the FoRS. There's no way that a car left the factory with air in the brake lines! The factory pressure bleeds the brakes and makes sure that the pedal is solid, before the car ever leaves.
    Agreed - the factory pedal feel with all factory equipment (pads/rotors/fluid) is the best you're going to get from a first bite perspective. The car is heavily vac-boosted.

    When I got the car and was driving it on the street, I added a pedal spacer for a little while to address the low gas pedal. Then I finally tracked the car - I removed the spacer after 1 session. For sale if anyone wants it...

    You just have to deal with the soft bite of initial pedal travel under any real load. Having now played with 2 sets of aftermarket/track pads (G-LOC crap then Mountune track), 2 types of fluid (RBF600 and ATE), and now stainless lines, the pedal just never gets firm on initial bite. Track pads actually make it worse, as you need some heat in them before they work, but then... they work... at least for a few laps depending on compound. Stock pads have the best initial bite - they just don't last past the second hard stop.

    This is not uncommon - factory pads are generally built to grab hard once or twice regardless of temp. Track pads are designed to need some heat before really working.

    (And no, there's no air in my lines.. have even done a few bleed sessions engaging the hell out of the ABS, followed by re-bleeding, to get rid of most stock fluid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanotech View Post
    For those who installed the Goodridge Phantom lines - did you find the clips janky? I could not come up with an installation that doesn't result in the clips at the hard lines -> stainless/rubber line point rattling around. Terrible fitment.

    The kit seems pretty weak in general TBH. I think I'd order the Mountune lines if I was doing it again.
    I installed the Goodridge Racing brake lines (not the standard version) and I had no problems with the installation, They have been working just fine and with many track days and lots of street miles.
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    Thank you to all who mentioned that right angle adapter.. I got around to assembling it this morning in preparation for doing some decent mod work next weekend. I also have all the parts on hand to create a slightly modified version of a Motive power bleeder, based on the rennlist forum post on the subject of dry bleeding.

    For now, behold, a right-angle adapter:

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    Well that was easy.. So now I have a modified pressure bleeder based on the aforementioned rennlist forum post and it now has a right-angle adapter. I have about 20' of tubing in total, and I think I'll splice in another quick release valve or two so I have some more options. With this much tubing, I should be able to pressurize the system while standing at the right-rear wheel, taking out any guess work or running back n' forth.

    I reused the straight-angle piece which was previously inserted into the cap, but now it's inserted into the female end of the right-angle adapter. All it took was a bit of plumber's tape. That original piece swivels, as do the quick release valves, too; no kinking, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumandris View Post
    Well that was easy.. So now I have a modified pressure bleeder based on the aforementioned rennlist forum post and it now has a right-angle adapter. I have about 20' of tubing in total, and I think I'll splice in another quick release valve or two so I have some more options. With this much tubing, I should be able to pressurize the system while standing at the right-rear wheel, taking out any guess work or running back n' forth.

    I reused the straight-angle piece which was previously inserted into the cap, but now it's inserted into the female end of the right-angle adapter. All it took was a bit of plumber's tape. That original piece swivels, as do the quick release valves, too; no kinking, basically.
    In a week or so I'm re-bleeding my brakes with my 90˚ adapter - we'll see if it corroded yet or not! Which adapter did you use? Mine is for air fittings so (as previously pointed out) it may not last long.

    PS the dry bleed is clever, except for the constant re-filling. My buddy has one of those for his P-cars and I hate using it. Bleed, close, check, disconnect, open cap, fill reservoir, close cap, re-connect, re-pressurize.

    Not sure why you would bother with it for the RS, since filling the reservoir is so annoying... Long funnel and small reservoir == super stupid. Obviously a lot easier with the 90˚ fitting but still a lot of extra work for 5 mins of cleaning/denatured alcohol flush.
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    Well going to attempt to do my own unsupervised brake fluid replacement this weekend. I have done it once before with a buddy that had a suction pump and a lot more experience, so I think I got the basics. However, I still have some doubts, even after reading this whole thread.

    1. Motive Power Bleeder used with or without fluid? Some said to just remove and refill the reservoir directly and keep the bleeder itself empty. My concern is how does it manage to not overfill the reservoir?

    2. Lift the whole car up on four jack stands (I only have 2)? Or can it be done by jacking one individual wheel at a time?

    3. Why pump the e-brake if it's a mechanical linkage to rear breaks?

    Might seem like trivial questions to some, but they've been bothering me and I'd appreciate the info before I go at it this weekend. Thanks.
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    So I went to 5.1 I have a 2 post lift, but you want to be able to do everything at once, I had 2 pneumatic bleaders made for fluid swaps, but basically the front and the rear are on their own grouping well call it, I open the right side, and bleed all of it out from the left side. Then refilled it with 5.1. Took about an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltocking View Post
    Well going to attempt to do my own unsupervised brake fluid replacement this weekend. I have done it once before with a buddy that had a suction pump and a lot more experience, so I think I got the basics. However, I still have some doubts, even after reading this whole thread.

    1. Motive Power Bleeder used with or without fluid? Some said to just remove and refill the reservoir directly and keep the bleeder itself empty. My concern is how does it manage to not overfill the reservoir?

    2. Lift the whole car up on four jack stands (I only have 2)? Or can it be done by jacking one individual wheel at a time?

    3. Why pump the e-brake if it's a mechanical linkage to rear breaks?

    Might seem like trivial questions to some, but they've been bothering me and I'd appreciate the info before I go at it this weekend. Thanks.
    No, do not try and do it with the bleeder empty..... That defeats the purpose of using the bleeder, and you'll have to refill the resevoir like 20 times, if that even works.

    You pump the ebrake because it's not a wired connection to shoes like older cars. It actuates the hydraulics of the rear caliper, so you pump the ebrake to make sure all air is removed.

    I did mine by jacking up 1 wheel at a time. You are doing 1 corner at a time anyway, so if unless you have a lift of QJ, just jack up each corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biznatch View Post
    You pump the ebrake because it's not a wired connection to shoes like older cars. It actuates the hydraulics of the rear caliper, so you pump the ebrake to make sure all air is removed.
    I thought that it was a wired connection:

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltocking View Post
    I thought that it was a wired connection:

    It is a cable connection, but look what the connection actuates. If you lost hydraulic pressure, your ebrake wouldn't work either.
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