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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningZ View Post
    Use YouTube to find a video on a short shifter install, that’ll get you to the bleeder valve

    Like this one

    Jeez I think Brando forgot to wear his blue and white striped butchers apron for this install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningZ View Post
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    Things purchased:
    - Motive Black Label pump (keeping the pressure at 20-25 psi during the process)
    - 90 degree brass 1/4" NPT swiveling adapter


    Hey @MorningZ what extra adapters did you use to get the swivel adapter to work with the red cap and the hose? I bought the stuff in your shopping list and was hoping it would all screw together, but now that it arrived I see that there are some more adapters needed.

    Thanks!
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    I bought nothing but what listed.

    Unscrewed the hose end from the red cap
    Screwed that end into the female side of the 90 degree swivel
    Screwed the male end of the 90 swivel into the red cap

    I used thread tape but i’m Not sure it’s really needed

    Done
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningZ View Post
    I bought nothing but what listed.

    Unscrewed the hose end from the red cap
    Screwed that end into the female side of the 90 degree swivel
    Screwed the male end of the 90 swivel into the red cap

    I used thread tape but iím Not sure itís really needed

    Done
    Hmm lame. I bought the same power bleeder you listed but this is what I got:




    I wonder if they sent me the non-black-label version?
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    Iím not sure but that cap is completely different than mine

    Does it unscrew?
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    btw, if you can’t get the adapter inline, it’s just a few clips and 10mm bolts for the cowl to be lifted up and propped up with a few rolls of tape (just like the picture you included in quote above), your cap and hose will clear with that done
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    @Camper Van Someren

    Had some time so i was kind of digging around a bit on the different cap you got.

    Can't find any discussion on Google about it

    The Motive website has this picture on the product page for #109 (it's clearly the (older?) cap that many of us have, the brass fitting screwed into the red metal cap)




    With that pointed out, pretty sure the different (new?) one piece design of the cap and hose you have doesn't stick up as much, thereby removing the convenience/need of the 90 degree swivel

    It wasn't required anyways, lifting and propping up the cowl gives plenty of clearance, but your cap should screw on without needing to prop that up.

    In short: you'll be fine with what you got
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorningZ View Post
    @Camper Van Someren

    Had some time so i was kind of digging around a bit on the different cap you got.

    Can't find any discussion on Google about it

    The Motive website has this picture on the product page for #109 (it's clearly the (older?) cap that many of us have, the brass fitting screwed into the red metal cap)




    With that pointed out, pretty sure the different (new?) one piece design of the cap and hose you have doesn't stick up as much, thereby removing the convenience/need of the 90 degree swivel

    It wasn't required anyways, lifting and propping up the cowl gives plenty of clearance, but your cap should screw on without needing to prop that up.

    In short: you'll be fine with what you got
    Thanks for looking into that. I actually think it may be a new metal design for the normal cap, while you got the ďblack labelĒ cap. Elsewhere in this thread it says that one of the main advantages of the black label is that you donít have to keep turning the reservoir while screwing on the cap because there is a swivel fitting built into the black-label cap to allow the cap to turn without twisting the hose.
    I actually tested the hose and it will link if I donít prop up the cowl. It just doesnít like to bend much before it kinks.
    I returned it to the seller and ordered a ďblack labelĒ bleeder from another seller. Hopefully I get the one with the threaded fittings...

    Edit: I got this one today. Much better:
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    I finally got around to doing the flush today. Thanks to all those who contributed and humored my questions. Seemed to go pretty well.

    I also flushed the clutch. I took some pics and will post in a day or two explaining the steps.

    I havenít driven it yet but when I tested the pedal in the car it was really spongy for the first two pumps (went down to the floor) but after that it feels nice and firm. Is that normal after a bleed, or should I be worried? I pumped the handbrake as instructed but didít touch the brake pedal during the whole procedure.
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    I turned on the car last night and the pedal is very spongy and easily goes to the floor when the motor is running. I must have air somewhere. Iím frustrated that I have to do all this again and Iím all out of RBF600. Will have to order more on Amazon.

    Iím not sure where air could have gotten in. I didnít change the lines or anything and had pressure in the system the entire time. I donít think I ever ran the reservoir dry but with clear fluid in the reservoir and the powerbleeder cap on it is hard to see where the level is, even when I backlight the reservoir. I also realized that the fluid level will change depending on if the front of the car is jacked up. So if it looks to be at the max line with the front jacked up then it will actually be overfilled when you lower the nose off the jacks.

    Actually that could have been a source of air... I did the rears with the wheels off and when I was lowering the rear I accidentally lowered it to quickly on the jack. It didnít crash down but dropped quick enough that I heard the gas slosh in the tank. The power bleeder was pressurized to 15 at the time. I wonder if it could have also sloshed fluid in the reservoir and the pressure could have pushed air into the master cylinder, even though the reservoir wasnít dry?

    I will re-bleed all four corners and see if the pedal goes back to normal. If not I may have to bleed the MC. Has anybody done this? Do you know how to access the MC bleed valve? Thanks.
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