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This is a discussion on Cool Tech - Jack Rails (Phase 1) within the Focus RS Maintenance forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; You need to make a video so it is clear. The amount of time you spend typing this out you could make a video. And ...

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    You need to make a video so it is clear. The amount of time you spend typing this out you could make a video. And a video will sell your product.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolTech View Post
    A few of you have commented on this - which means that I am REALLY a poor photographer. I think many of you are envisioning this "block" of aluminum attached to the lowest portion of the car and therefore susceptible to road debris and other potential mishaps. I assure you that this is NOT the case. The jack rails are NOT the lowest point on the car. The main front suspension mounting points are lower - as is the entire cradle structure. The jack rails fit up next to the pinch weld but are ~1/8 to 3/16" taller than the pinch weld so that when you insert a jack - you will jack from the rail and not the pinch weld. Many apologies, and I will try to get some better pictures of this!!

    Also, there were some comments about making the rails longer. We don't believe that is necessary at all. Please remember that we chose this location because it is the location where it is easiest to lift BOTH tires simultaneously (and evenly). There is body cladding overlapping the pinch weld in this area that prevents you from jacking here (unless you're willing to sacrifice your body cladding). For us, we accomplish the goal of being able to lift the car at this point and there's not a good case to have longer (and heavier) jack rails.

    Thanks everyone for all of the feedback. We will move forward in getting a production run going and I will keep everyone posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolTech View Post
    A few of you have commented on this - which means that I am REALLY a poor photographer. I think many of you are envisioning this "block" of aluminum attached to the lowest portion of the car and therefore susceptible to road debris and other potential mishaps. I assure you that this is NOT the case. The jack rails are NOT the lowest point on the car. The main front suspension mounting points are lower - as is the entire cradle structure. The jack rails fit up next to the pinch weld but are ~1/8 to 3/16" taller than the pinch weld so that when you insert a jack - you will jack from the rail and not the pinch weld. Many apologies, and I will try to get some better pictures of this!!

    Also, there were some comments about making the rails longer. We don't believe that is necessary at all. Please remember that we chose this location because it is the location where it is easiest to lift BOTH tires simultaneously (and evenly). There is body cladding overlapping the pinch weld in this area that prevents you from jacking here (unless you're willing to sacrifice your body cladding). For us, we accomplish the goal of being able to lift the car at this point and there's not a good case to have longer (and heavier) jack rails.

    Thanks everyone for all of the feedback. We will move forward in getting a production run going and I will keep everyone posted.
    I'm interested in a set. Do you have a ballpark price in mind yet?

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    Post #36:

    Wow! Thanks for all of the great feedback and comments. The community has done a great job already to answer most of the questions. Just to reiterate a couple of points.

    1. We would never advocate using 2 jack stands under each jack rail to suspend the car. 14" is just not wide enough to provide a stable platform!
    2. The kit would include 2 jack rails (as shown in the picture). Place a floor jack anywhere under the jack rail and you can lift the entire side of the car - then swap rims/tires or place jack stands, etc. (Please ALWAYS use a jack stand if you are going to get under the car.)
    3. The competition has bars that are heavy AND require welding. I don't know about the ST's, but there's a LOT of body caulk on the underside of the of the RS making me believe that welding prep would be time-consuming.
    4. Looks like a nice gun metal gray powder coating might be the best compromise on color.
    5. If we can be reasonably confident to get a minimum of ~50 orders, then I think the price can be $129 with the (2) jack rails, installation tool, and stainless hardware.

    Quote Originally Posted by tbone View Post
    I'm interested in a set. Do you have a ballpark price in mind yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor911 View Post
    Post #36:

    Wow! Thanks for all of the great feedback and comments. The community has done a great job already to answer most of the questions. Just to reiterate a couple of points.

    1. We would never advocate using 2 jack stands under each jack rail to suspend the car. 14" is just not wide enough to provide a stable platform!
    2. The kit would include 2 jack rails (as shown in the picture). Place a floor jack anywhere under the jack rail and you can lift the entire side of the car - then swap rims/tires or place jack stands, etc. (Please ALWAYS use a jack stand if you are going to get under the car.)
    3. The competition has bars that are heavy AND require welding. I don't know about the ST's, but there's a LOT of body caulk on the underside of the of the RS making me believe that welding prep would be time-consuming.
    4. Looks like a nice gun metal gray powder coating might be the best compromise on color.
    5. If we can be reasonably confident to get a minimum of ~50 orders, then I think the price can be $129 with the (2) jack rails, installation tool, and stainless hardware.
    Aah. Missed it. Gracias @Raptor911

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecobeast View Post
    Depending on price - I might interested.
    Same here...

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    I'd buy!

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    Now I really regret buying those $40 pinch weld adaptors

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    Is the factory paint and part powdercoat sufficient to prevent galvanic corrosion or will you need to gasket the connection?
    Hint: Other vehicles with aluminum to steel connections with only a painted coating in between are known to create rust pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randman2011 View Post
    As someone who has pushed a pinch weld up inside the rocker panel while trying to jack up a car, I MIGHT be interested in this. How much do you expect these to weigh? Red would be a no-go, though.
    Because of the location the ONLY way anyone could ever see these and what colour they are is 1. its on a hoist/jack up in the air and they're under it or 2. you have the shiny side down, in which case i think the colour is the least of your worries.

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    I tried posting some questions here twice. They have not been added to the forum thread... wtf?


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