Noob aftermarket wheel/tire questions
This is a discussion on Noob aftermarket wheel/tire questions within the Focus RS Wheels and Tires forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; Hi all,
A pothole on the interstate recently destroyed one of my stock forged rims (and the tire, of course). After some additional bad luck, ...
Noob aftermarket wheel/tire questions
A pothole on the interstate recently destroyed one of my stock forged rims (and the tire, of course). After some additional bad luck, my plans to buy replacement wheels off another member here changed. Now I'm looking at aftermarket. I wanted to get something lightweight (thanks to this thread), and also wanted a little more tire to help with future potholes. Durability and reliability are incredibly important to me- I daily drive my car, and drive it hard. I need wheels that can tolerate rough roads and even a little air time. Since I've always used OEM, even when changing wheels on cars in the past, I'm very new to aftermarket wheels, so I've got some questions and I'm hoping people can help out or correct me where I might be wrong.
- The wheels I'm looking at are Enkei TS9 18x8 +45 in their "platinum gray" color. Looks like those will fit without issue, and it's a nice color that will hide the brake dust and dirt. I've heard nothing bad about their quality, but if I can expect these to crack in half the first time I roll over some railroad tracks too quickly, please let me know!
- I know I'll need to have hub rings. Should I be thinking about metal rings if I'm driving the car hard, or are the plastic ones fine?
- When I add the wheels to my cart on TireRack, it automatically adds some lug nuts, too. I assumed that the tapered stock nuts would work just fine with any aftermarket wheels expecting tapered nuts. Am I wrong there?
- For TPMS, according to this thread, it looks like I can buy some OEM ones (like these) and not have to worry about programming them. This would be ideal since I'd like to switch to my winters and back without worrying about TPMS. If there's a better source than the tasca link posted, I'd like to hear it!
- Regarding tires- I've been really happy with the original PSS, but I'm curious about the new PS4S. The problem is that PS4S only come as a 245 for 18" rims, and I'm wondering if that will be too much tire for an 8" rim? seems like recommended width for 8" wheels is 225 or 235. Does anyone have good pictures of a 245 on an 8" wheel? Also, should I be worried about a wider tire for normal driving? Seems like autrocross guys love stuffing 275s on their 8" rims, but I need a tire that also performs well for boring driving. Worst case I'll just get another set of PSS in 235/40/18. (Also, no cup2s. I'm skeptical about their wet performance; the PSS are already sketchy enough when I hit standing water.)
Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer! (and thanks for reading my long post lol)
TL;DR: buying aftermarket wheels, have questions
IMO, the optimal setup for the RS is 245 40 18 tires on 8.5" rims. These will improve ride, provide a near stock geometry setup and will provide lots of tire and wheel choices for the least money.
First of all getting a light wt wheels is all well and good, but unless you're talking about 7- 10# per wheel savings you'll likely never notice it for street use. The tire type, compound and grip are far more important than shaving a few #s off of the corners.
If you know how you'll use the car then you can narrow down the tire choice amongst all of the available tires.
Get the best/strongest wheels in a weight you like that don't cost an arm and a leg. Rotary forged wheels offer the most cost effective way to get improved strength for a reasonable amount of $$.
Tire choices: Mpss and the new 4s are great performance street tire that also ride well, but bc the RS has limited camber and they have softer sidewalls they will eat the outer edges when driven aggressively for extended periods. Other tires that hold up pretty well to aggressive driving include Bridgestone Re71, Dunlop Drizza, YokohamA Ad008...and there are many others.
Last edited by lflouie; 07-04-2017 at 05:51 PM.
The lug nuts depend on the wheel. My first set of Neuspeed wheels, the stock lugs worked fine. My newest set of TSW's the stock lugs wouldn't even fit in the lug holes, so I had to order some tuner style lugs.
The plastic hub rings are fine.
Thanks for the responses so far, guys.
As for tires, i'm currently not super concerned about chewing up the sidewalls on the MPSS/MPS4s. I've got about 10k miles on my original MPSS and the edges are still doing alright. Some of those other options sound nice, but the wet performance on them concerns me. As mentioned above, heavy rain and standing water are not out of the question, and I'm not sure I'm willing to sacrifice any more wet performance. Currently MPS4s is my top choice for tire.
For the wheels, I was also looking at the Neuspeed RSe52 in gunmetal, which are an 8.5" wide and also flow-formed. Not sure I'd agree about the difference being unnoticeable, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to appreciate the 5lb/corner savings of either of the wheels listed. Understood tires are more important, as is durability for me, but I wanted to move in the direction of lighter wheels. A quick search for "rotary forged wheels" points me in the direction of TSW, but surely they can't be the only one with affordable forged wheels? Do you know of a simpler way for me to find which wheels are forged rather than going to every manufacturer's site? Tire Rack's "construction" filters help a bit, but not much.
Good to know about the lugs and hub rings, too!
I highly recommend the neuspeed rse52s >> https://www.focusrs.org/forum/18-focu...52-detail.html. Very good quality and light. I don't think you could do better in the same price range.
Contact #RSfocused as he sells them. Also, Neuspeed is supposedly coming out with a new wheel (RSe11) any day now and it is suppose to be 9" wide. Far right wheel below.
What is not obvious about these wheels are that they are all hub-centric so no need for hub rings. And as mentioned above, they work with stock lugs.
And I would def run the 4s as it is the latest and best tire on the market. And I know cup2 are better but they do not last long so why even bother unless you are going to the track all the time.
I had the RSe52's that I just took off, they are about 5 lbs lighter per corner than my new TSW's. I honestly can tell no difference in daily driving. I can tell you the Neuspeed chipped very easily, I rode around with them for about a month and they have tons of chips in the paint.
If you want to buy them you can come get them and the forged wheels, just try not to get robbed this time :-)
I have RSe52s with 2500 miles and not one chip.
Originally Posted by Skraight
A lot of roads around here are tar/chipped, so lots of loose gravel. Only main city roads are concrete/asphalt.
Stock forged wheels /w 1000 miles I didn't get any chips, new TSW wheels no chips in 300 miles. The Neuspeed wheels I had quite a few and probably only put 500 miles on them.
4S are great all around tires, so of your driving isnt overly agree they are a wise choice.
If you'll call a couple of the larger online wheel distributors, they can easily recommend oprions on Rotary forged and other options. A general rule of thumb is Rotary forged wheels cost $1000 and up for 18" x 8.5. An 43 to 48 et wheel will work.
You can swap your Tpms from stock wheels to the new ones.
Last edited by lflouie; 07-04-2017 at 06:10 PM.
As for the weight thing, on my past car, an '02 Celica GT-S, I was on scion tC wheels (I think about 22lb a piece) for most of my time owning the car, then put the stock wheels (about 17lb a piece) back on before selling it, and the difference was incredibly noticeable to me. Obviously the RS is a different car, but in my experience 5lbs can make a big difference.
Rock chips are fine. It's a daily driver, I've accepted that those are inevitable. it will see road construction, gravel and dirt roads, etc. I've got at least one big chip in my OEM forged wheels, and probably some little ones I can't see through the brake dust. Looks are important, but I'm not planning to win car shows, just needs to look good from 5 feet.
To those of you who had/have the RSe52s, have you hit any potholes or sketchy bumps without issues?
Which of the TSW wheels do you have? Some of their rims look good, but the Bathurst that I see in a few threads is pretty ugly to me :/ (And I'm not planning on getting robbed again. I'm still dealing with that **** and got a whopping $25 back from the whole thing.)
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