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This is a discussion on Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Tires Will Be Used By the Likes of Ferrari and Porsche within the Focus RS Wheels and Tires forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; I had PSS on two different Porsche 997 Carrera S and hated it both times. Grip was not fantastic, especially as the tire aged. Both ...

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    I had PSS on two different Porsche 997 Carrera S and hated it both times. Grip was not fantastic, especially as the tire aged. Both of those cars came fitted with Michelin PS2 which I thought was better than the PSS. I eventually found my holy grail tire in a Bridgestone RE-11. The PSS came out around 2011 so I would hope Michelin would have improved upon it by now. My Cups are far better, but shouldn't last as long. I'm always willing to try a good new tire. I will go with the Pirelli P Zero PZ4 most likely for my Spyder next time. As for the RS, it's most likely the RE-11. At $100 less per tire than the Cup, it's a no brainer. Should last a little longer too.
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    Lol the PSS are the best tire i ever had and i bought a set for my RS
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    was just looking closely are the specs and the 4s is 3 pounds heavier (235/35/19) than the MPSS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderDrvr View Post
    I had PSS on two different Porsche 997 Carrera S and hated it both times. Grip was not fantastic, especially as the tire aged. Both of those cars came fitted with Michelin PS2 which I thought was better than the PSS. I eventually found my holy grail tire in a Bridgestone RE-11. The PSS came out around 2011 so I would hope Michelin would have improved upon it by now. My Cups are far better, but shouldn't last as long. I'm always willing to try a good new tire. I will go with the Pirelli P Zero PZ4 most likely for my Spyder next time. As for the RS, it's most likely the RE-11. At $100 less per tire than the Cup, it's a no brainer. Should last a little longer too.
    Edit: my bad, wrong tire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp View Post
    You're comparing tires across two different performance categories. Of course the PSS won't have as good of grip as the Cup 2. Just like the Cup 2 will slide all over the place in the rain and the PSS will be solid. Also I have over 15k miles on the PSS on my S6 and they have a ton of life left. Different tire categories, different pros and cons. I'm more worried about the weight, if the specs that @Raptor911 saw are accurate.
    The PS2 is the version of the MPSS prior to the current MPSS we have on the RS. He was not referring to Sport Cup 2's.
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    The specs I quoted are from the Tire Rack site. They are very good about posting weights for every tire they sell and they are very accurate as I weigh every tire I purchase and then compare it to their data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp View Post
    You're comparing tires across two different performance categories. Of course the PSS won't have as good of grip as the Cup 2. Just like the Cup 2 will slide all over the place in the rain and the PSS will be solid. Also I have over 15k miles on the PSS on my S6 and they have a ton of life left. Different tire categories, different pros and cons. I'm more worried about the weight, if the specs that @Raptor911 saw are accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor911 View Post
    was just looking closely are the specs and the 4s is 3 pounds heavier (235/35/19) than the MPSS.
    I just talked to Michelin and they quoted 22.51 pounds for the PS4S in 235/35ZR19XL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp View Post
    I just talked to Michelin and they quoted 22.51 pounds for the PS4S in 235/35ZR19XL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor911 View Post
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    Considering there is no data but a weight. I'm willing to bet that it's just a nominal place holder. I should have screenshotted the chat I just had with Michelin. After she gave me the weight I even asked to confirm that it was for the soon-to-be released PS4S and she said yes.
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    or they quoted you the weight on the MPSS. That was the weight I saw on my scale when I weighed my MPSS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp View Post
    Considering there is no data but a weight. I'm willing to bet that it's just a nominal place holder. I should have screenshotted the chat I just had with Michelin. After she gave me the weight I even asked to confirm that it was for the soon-to-be released PS4S and she said yes.

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