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    Why are they so dog gone expensive. They don't use cobb tuning they use there own to me
    that's not a good thing. A lot of people like to have it versatile to where they can have
    multiple tuners to run off one system. So it looks like i wont be using them for my RS.
    Has anyone being dealing with them on here? What are your thoughts about livernois?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIdeswipe View Post
    Why are they so dog gone expensive. They don't use cobb tuning they use there own to me
    that's not a good thing. A lot of people like to have it versatile to where they can have
    multiple tuners to run off one system. So it looks like i wont be using them for my RS.
    Has anyone being dealing with them on here? What are your thoughts about livernois?
    I know a few people that used them for e30 and e85 tunes. I used them on my old 2010 Ford flex so I could run e85 in it after I put larger injectors and pump to compensate for it. They were really helpful, in the end I had the car at 310whp from stock 251whp

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIdeswipe View Post
    Why are they so dog gone expensive. They don't use cobb tuning they use there own to me
    that's not a good thing. A lot of people like to have it versatile to where they can have
    multiple tuners to run off one system. So it looks like i wont be using them for my RS.
    Has anyone being dealing with them on here? What are your thoughts about livernois?
    Sounds like you already have your mind made up, so I'm not sure what you're really asking for. Confirmation bias maybe? No, they don't use the Cobb "system"...never have, never will. If that's what you want from a tuner, I'd look at the countless others who do use it, and get a tune from them. If you want to use Livernois, then you have to use their "method". They tune just about every single modern Ford, GM, and Chrysler product on the market. Cobb only supports the F150, Focus, Fusion and Mustang. Why would they invest in Cobb, when they already have a setup that works across the board, on dozens and dozens of platforms?

    With that said, I'm happy with my Livernois tune. If you have questions about it, why don't you call them and see what they have to say?

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    someone on here used them for a motor build and meth injection with good results. theyre a nationally reputed speed shop.

    think it was @Snox801
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    They have an excellent reputation, even though you're off the beaten path as it were. I imagine it's more appealing if you're within range of their shop.

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    Great rep, love my tune but my god customer service sucks at LMS. I can't ever talk to anyone about my specific RS needs. Cant say anything other than Stratified is a must avoid...total garbage customer service and after purchasing from them I had to find to get everything refunded, for other companies.

    Everyone has varying experience and may be upset with me for posting. But I cant really recommend LMS or Stratified. Maybe talk to other companies? Best to find someone local if you can!
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    Gotta say that listening to this and other posts, I am glad I settled on Tune+. Adam’s responsiveness is exceptional.


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    This has all been hashed out before. By now the RS is a known platform and I haven't many engine failure threads because of a bad tune in about a year. Depending on your mods, any tuner will be fine. The more exotic you get with parts and fueling, the more you should have a conversation with the tuner and check out their reputation.

    OP, what are your mods and what tune are you going with?
    If you buy one, drive it hard. Because thrills like these don’t happen often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillofoc View Post
    This has all been hashed out before. By now the RS is a known platform and I haven't many engine failure threads because of a bad tune in about a year. Depending on your mods, any tuner will be fine. The more exotic you get with parts and fueling, the more you should have a conversation with the tuner and check out their reputation.

    OP, what are your mods and what tune are you going with?
    If the OP wants to go full e85, I reccomend livernois 100% they were the first doing it for the rs, and they do it very well.

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