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    On very cold mornings in second gear with moderate throttle there is sometimes a very noticeable cut in power for me. After 3 minutes or so of driving it's not an issue. Aside from that I don't have much in the way of power issues. It does feel a little underwhelming at times, and at others there seems to be ample power. However, that's about as unscientific as it gets. May have more to do with what I had for lunch that day...
    @Paolo if it was also humid on that hot day maybe you are hitting a condensation issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocono-ford View Post
    On very cold mornings in second gear with moderate throttle there is sometimes a very noticeable cut in power for me. After 3 minutes or so of driving it's not an issue. Aside from that I don't have much in the way of power issues. It does feel a little underwhelming at times, and at others there seems to be ample power. However, that's about as unscientific as it gets. May have more to do with what I had for lunch that day...
    @Paolo if it was also humid on that hot day maybe you are hitting a condensation issue?
    Pocono-ford,

    Thanks for replying.

    Yeah it was very steamy today(humid) and have noticed on cooler days (less humidity) its more linear power and boost is available.
    Interesting to say the least.

    I wonder do I need to remove the blanking plate or leave it on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo View Post
    Pocono-ford,

    Thanks for replying.

    Yeah it was very steamy today(humid) and have noticed on cooler days (less humidity) its more linear power and boost is available.
    Interesting to say the least.

    I wonder do I need to remove the blanking plate or leave it on?
    Mate I'm on my way to doing intercooler, charge pipes and waste gate actuator upgrade. In the meantime over the holidays my Cobb accessport arrived and for the exercise I paired it to the car tonight and thought I would just load the Cobb 98 tune and see what it goes like, just for a stock comparison if nothing else.

    All I can say is what a difference to the complete drivability of the car it made. No more crappy "rev hang" for starters and instantly you could feel the difference even without getting into it. Give it some throttle and a whole new experience. You can actually feel the car come on boost and the torque is consistent holds high into the revs and for those like me who complain of inconsistent popping and banging out the exhaust, it is there on cue all the time with about 1/3 throttle input.

    As others have said, this is how the car should perform. Really is a totally different animal that had me amazed how well the car had come alive just with an OTS tune. If nothing else but just purchasing an Accessport, you will be more than impressed. All this on a 27 degree humid Brisbane evening.

    You won't be disappointed my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FASTIR 555 View Post
    Mate I'm on my way to doing intercooler, charge pipes and waste gate actuator upgrade. In the meantime over the holidays my Cobb accessport arrived and for the exercise I paired it to the car tonight and thought I would just load the Cobb 98 tune and see what it goes like, just for a stock comparison if nothing else.

    All I can say is what a difference to the complete drivability of the car it made. No more crappy "rev hang" for starters and instantly you could feel the difference even without getting into it. Give it some throttle and a whole new experience. You can actually feel the car come on boost and the torque is consistent holds high into the revs and for those like me who complain of inconsistent popping and banging out the exhaust, it is there on cue all the time with about 1/3 throttle input.

    As others have said, this is how the car should perform. Really is a totally different animal that had me amazed how well the car had come alive just with an OTS tune. If nothing else but just purchasing an Accessport, you will be more than impressed. All this on a 27 degree humid Brisbane evening.

    You won't be disappointed my friend.
    I didn't want to put a tune in under warranty but might have to, as quite frankly the power standard is p!ssweak!
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    There are plenty of other cars that you could say "the power standard is p!ssweak". The RS is not one of them IMO. Plenty of power to get you into trouble with the law and plenty of power combined with the driving dynamics that make it the sensaational car that is is and more than the emphasis on power alone.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallye Sport View Post
    There are plenty of other cars that you could say "the power standard is p!ssweak". The RS is not one of them IMO. Plenty of power to get you into trouble with the law and plenty of power combined with the driving dynamics that make it the sensaational car that is is and more than the emphasis on power alone.........
    Come on, first gear is shocking, I had a Hyundai I30 hold his own through 1st gear, was embarassing! and the inconsistancy, far out, oh today you might get some power, next day....NO POWER FOR YOU!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AusRS View Post
    Come on, first gear is shocking, I had a Hyundai I30 hold his own through 1st gear, was embarassing! and the inconsistancy, far out, oh today you might get some power, next day....NO POWER FOR YOU!!
    Could it be our hot Australian summer weather, AusRS?

    Just be mindful of heatsoaking - although I presume there should really be none as the intercooler is front mounted

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    Quote Originally Posted by JahjaMan View Post
    Could it be our hot Australian summer weather, AusRS?

    Just be mindful of heatsoaking - although I presume there should really be none as the intercooler is front mounted
    This was 20-22deg days, I'd thought that sort of temp would be fine, I've owned a number of turbo cars over the years and understand on hot days the power will be less and infact on hot days in the past I didn't even bother, just cruised.

    I went for a spin with my older brother the other night in his 2 door sti wrx(cat back only) it would blow the doors off my RS in first gear. I even did a few calcs sti weighs 1360+120(bro)+75(me) = 1555kg, 206kw, 353NM, RS 1575+75 = 1650kg, 257kw, 440NM. I should kill it, I wouldn't even try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AusRS View Post
    This was 20-22deg days, I'd thought that sort of temp would be fine, I've owned a number of turbo cars over the years and understand on hot days the power will be less and infact on hot days in the past I didn't even bother, just cruised.

    I went for a spin with my older brother the other night in his 2 door sti wrx(cat back only) it would blow the doors off my RS in first gear. I even did a few calcs sti weighs 1360+120(bro)+75(me) = 1555kg, 206kw, 353NM, RS 1575+75 = 1650kg, 257kw, 440NM. I should kill it, I wouldn't even try.
    I see.

    But remember also the torque/boost limit in 1st and 2nd gears.

    My old STI 2006 forged bottom end would also exhibit some odd behaviour at times. Sometimes it felt super fast, other times not so.

    But 22 degrees is mild weather - should be operating 100%

    I have no other suggestions I'm afraid
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