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This is a discussion on 2016 vs 2017 within the Focus RS Discussions forums, part of the Focus RS Forums category; Originally Posted by davismtl I'm guessing this is for Europe. My N-A 2016 already has: - Sync 3 (1.0) - Sony logos No, the list ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davismtl View Post
    I'm guessing this is for Europe.

    My N-A 2016 already has:
    - Sync 3 (1.0)
    - Sony logos
    No, the list is actually more NA biased right now. The difference between most of the 2016s and all of the 2017s for Sync is version number. If you got a 2016 NA model, it likely came with version 1.0. The 2017s are version 2.2, which includes native support for Android Auto and Apple Car Play. I'm not sure who saw a difference in Sony labels on the door tweeters, but I'll delete from the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-STi View Post
    Produced 04/2016, I don't see any cross referencing numbers on the mirror. Did I miss it?
    Probably not. Not all parts have the engineering number on them.

    That is really odd that you ended up with the Type 5 mirror on a 4/2016 build. Mine was also built 4/2016, 4/19/2016 to be exact. I could understand some of the late 2016s built in September having the Type 5 mirror.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoRs92 View Post

    Is it a simple switch from the type 3 to type 5?
    No. The attaching point that is bonded on the glass is a different shape. The Type 3 twists off its mount where the Type 5 has a little latch you push and it slides up off the mounting point. Type 3 is a triangular shape and it looks like the Type 5 is rectangular.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haze View Post
    Type 5 appears to be the more universal wedge style mount. This means that it's easier to find a direct fit replacement for the standard rear view mirror.
    Be careful on that. The slide on mounts that the aftermarket Gentex mirrors are designed for are probably a different size than the Type 5 mount. Someone needs to measure both the Type 5 and earlier mounts to see if they are dimensionally different.

    Quote Originally Posted by loubif View Post
    Sadly, debris from an bridge I passed through damaged my windshield and am now looking at replacing it and after reading this thread I'm thinking of upgrading to the new style windshield with the type 5 mirror, any suggestions as how to go about this??? OP. sorry for the hijack!!!
    I don't know exactly how the glass companies will distinguish this difference yet. One suggestion I have is to look at the Ford engineering number in the windshield's lower left corner. I can tell you the one on mine, which has a Type 3 mirror, is BM51-A03100-F*. This is the first line below the Ford oval. If we can get this number from a windshield that has a Type 5 mirror that should help distinguish the two. I thought someone on here had posted a picture of the corner of a Type 5 windshield but I can't find it.

    According to the shop manual, the shroud on the 2016s was for a rain sensor that was never offered here. There is a plastic cover in the round "port" that you can see from the outside and there is also a square spot with fingers that would have held the module for the sensor. There is a good picture of all of it in Post #11 in this thread:

    Whats with the Janky plastic crap behind the rear view mirror?

    The European models are very different as there are 3 or 4 sensors up there and the shroud is a different shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PiSigma View Post
    Be careful on that. The slide on mounts that the aftermarket Gentex mirrors are designed for are probably a different size than the Type 5 mount. Someone needs to measure both the Type 5 and earlier mounts to see if they are dimensionally different.

    Yeah you might be right. I replaced my windshield after about 10 days but used OEM glass from an ST.

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    Just wondering if you could provide the Ford engineering number in the windshield's lower left corner, this is the first line below the Ford oval as I would like to upgrade my type 3 windshield and mirror to the newer type 5 as my windshield was damaged and requires replacement anyway, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiSigma View Post
    Yup, the plastic thingy is gone and the entire mounting is different. It is now what Ford calls a Type 5 mirror (2016 was Type 3).

    Sync3 upgraded from 1.0 to 2.2 and CarPlay USB hub replaced non-CarPlay compatible 2016 version.



    I gots a type 5 on my 2016.

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    Is there a PN on the mirror?

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    [QUOTE=loubif;903994]Just wondering if you could provide the Ford engineering number in the windshield's lower left corner, this is the first line below the Ford oval as I would like to upgrade my type 3 windshield and mirror to the newer type 5 as my windshield was damaged and requires replacement anyway, thanks.

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    Mine was definitely one of the last built 2016's. It left plant October 5th (was finally delivered Dec 23rd). It came with the Type 3 mirror, which I had promptly replaced with a Gentex/Homelink mirror. I had to order a an extra part for it as well because of the weird mount.

    Also had the sony logos, Carplay does not work, came with 1.0 Sync, which I updated while driving it home 100 miles from my house.

    It was so close to the end, I don't know why they couldn't have just thrown the right damn hub in for me. It was built on the same day 2017's were built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausmac91 View Post

    Don't know about strictly UK versions but the 2016 Aussie version has that oversized cover complete with rain sensors and auto dimming mirror standard.
    Really? I haven't seen any AU RS with the rear-view mirror set-up you're talking about. And I thought all the AU builds were the same aside from optional wheels package and of course paint colour..

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    Quote Originally Posted by eflactem View Post
    Really? I haven't seen any AU RS with the rear-view mirror set-up you're talking about. And I thought all the AU builds were the same aside from optional wheels package and of course paint colour..
    you have auto dimming and rain sensors? Or are you referring to the cover?

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    Can someone get a picture of what this CarPlay compatible USB hub looks like and where it is. If we scratch the Sync version, which is a software update for the 2016 models, it seems there are very few differences between the cars. And nearly all of those are cosmetic.

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