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This is a discussion on Planned Sound System Upgrades? Speaker Sizes? within the Focus RS Electronics forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; I've had the RS for a little over a month and I am not a big fan of this Sony 10 speaker system. In my ...

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    I've had the RS for a little over a month and I am not a big fan of this Sony 10 speaker system. In my 2014 Escape, I had basically the same system and spent quite a bit of time and money upgrading it (Disappointed with Sony Audio... - Page 7 - 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 Ford Escape Forum and go to post 65).

    I am not going to upgrade the RS as much as I did the Escape but I want to at least improve it some. I have added sound deadening (Dynamat and Dynaliner) to the entire car, replaced Sony speakers with Focal Integration separates, disconnected the center dash speaker and replaced the OEM woofer with JLAudio dual 8" sub with built in amp. It is nothing like the Escape but then I spent 1/4 of the money to do the RS.

    It was a much easier install since I didn't add a signal processor/equalizer and amps. The hardest part was integrating the sub in the floor of the hatch. I didn't want to add a woofer box in the hatch area and there is a decent amount of space in the floor. I cut out the styrofoam to fit the sub box, raised the entire styrofoam up 1 1/2", removed the grills on the subwoofers (they are very high) and remounted the Sony amp. I rarely put anything in the hatch and would rather raise the floor an inch or two then put a sub box above the floor. Down the road I may add processors, equalizers and amps but for now I am satisfied with the sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markboris View Post
    I've had the RS for a little over a month and I am not a big fan of this Sony 10 speaker system. In my 2014 Escape, I had basically the same system and spent quite a bit of time and money upgrading it (Disappointed with Sony Audio... - Page 7 - 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 Ford Escape Forum and go to post 65).

    I am not going to upgrade the RS as much as I did the Escape but I want to at least improve it some. I have added sound deadening (Dynamat and Dynaliner) to the entire car, replaced Sony speakers with Focal Integration separates, disconnected the center dash speaker and replaced the OEM woofer with JLAudio dual 8" sub with built in amp. It is nothing like the Escape but then I spent 1/4 of the money to do the RS.

    It was a much easier install since I didn't add a signal processor/equalizer and amps. The hardest part was integrating the sub in the floor of the hatch. I didn't want to add a woofer box in the hatch area and there is a decent amount of space in the floor. I cut out the styrofoam to fit the sub box, raised the entire styrofoam up 1 1/2", removed the grills on the subwoofers (they are very high) and remounted the Sony amp. I rarely put anything in the hatch and would rather raise the floor an inch or two then put a sub box above the floor. Down the road I may add processors, equalizers and amps but for now I am satisfied with the sound.

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    How did you end up wiring the sub? Did you need an LC2i or were you able to adapt the connector from the stock sub to connect to the JL sub amp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huge_Midget View Post
    How did you end up wiring the sub? Did you need an LC2i or were you able to adapt the connector from the stock sub to connect to the JL sub amp?
    Says he may add amps/processors/etc. later. So by the power of deduction, it's running off the Sony amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourZero View Post
    Says he may add amps/processors/etc. later. So by the power of deduction, it's running off the Sony amp.
    That JL Sub box has its own integral amplifier built into it. It also appears to have a high level input that looks very similar to the pinout of the connector for the stock Sony subwoofer. I was wondering if he was able to connect the JL box using the existing subwoofer wiring, either with some wire splicing or an adapter pigtail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huge_Midget View Post
    That JL Sub box has its own integral amplifier built into it. It also appears to have a high level input that looks very similar to the pinout of the connector for the stock Sony subwoofer. I was wondering if he was able to connect the JL box using the existing subwoofer wiring, either with some wire splicing or an adapter pigtail.
    I've never seen that box, thanks for the link. It has high level inputs, so all you'd do is splice off the subwoofer out on the Sony amp.


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    how much did the focal speakers run you? I can already tell you're willing to spend more than me on the system but my local guy has focals that I've been looking into.
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    Sorry for the delay in replying. This showed up today......

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    Yes I am using the Sony amp at this time for the Focal speakers and to drive the JLAudio sub via the high level input. Just took the four OEM sub wires and ran the into the JL built-in amp. There is a switch on the JL amp to turn on when it sees a signal so did not run a turn on wire and ran an 8 gauge power wire directly from the battery to the JL. Since the OEM sub signal is crossed over, I ran the crossover on the JL wide open. Plenty of very deep bass. By the way, I have read some people don't use the woofer outputs from the Sony amp because they are "limited" so as not to over drive the small OEM woofer. Instead they tap into the front or rear speakers for the signal. Well, I tried that in the Sony system in the Escape, and on a 2014 ST I worked on for a friend and the door speakers are the ones that are limited in low end bass. Yes they do have bass output but not as low as the OEM woofer signal has. Did not try it on the RS but figured it probably hasn't changed in the last two years.

    If your not familiar with this woofer, it is a sleeper. I have had one in my ranger (non-amplified model) for three years and everyone swears it is a dual 10" or 12". You literally have to listen to this sub. I have had JL 10" and 12" W6's and these dual 8" W2's give them a run for their money. I am a sealed sub kind of guy because I am after quality and not quantity but this ported box gives out fairly tight bass since the drives are small. You cannot dismiss this box just because they are 8's. You really have to hear it. They make a single 8" too but it strains a bit. Here is a link to the JL sub: ACP208LG-W3v3 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Systems - MicroSub+? - JL Audio

    The Focal speakers I installed are NOT from their high end separates with crossover boxes like I installed in the Escape. They are the lowest end separates they make called Integration. The kit consists of a woofer (mid bass/midrange) and tweeter plus passive crossovers built into the wires going to the woofer and tweeter. I purchased them from Crutchfield and when you do they will send you the adapter rings that will fit perfectly into the doors of the Focus. I removed the tweeters grills in the front and rear doors, pulled out the tweeter and glued in the Focal tweeters. Was a fairly simple installation but then I have been installing car stereos in my cars for almost 50 years. While these speakers sound quite a bit better than the Sony's, they do not sound anything like their high end separates. Just depends on what your going after. The RS is a weekend kind of car for me so I have more money invested in the Ranger, Escape and F150. Link to the Focal speakers: ISS 165 | Focal America.

    I decided to add the speaker grills on the sub after all and had to move around the height a bit for everything to fit. Also got a 13 inch JL grill which fit over the top of the Sony amp just to make things look a little cleaner. No one really looks under there anyway.

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    So does everyone notice that the rear level is much lower than the front? My '14 Escape and friends '14 ST is not like this at all. They are both equal front and rear when the balance is set to the middle position. I watched a video from Justin in Spain when he took it to the dealer they said they did an update and now he said it is much louder and the same as the front. He has Sync 2 but I doubt that would make any difference. Both Sync 2 and 3 RS's have this issue. I PM'd him to see if he can give me more info on that update the dealer performed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidCow3 View Post
    lymerock,

    You'd like my SVS PB-12 Plus in my home theater system

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    I've got one of those subs too, it's amazing how much output it is capable of. I had to turn it down. I could feel the bass via my the soles of my feet in the carpet-on-concrete in my old basement suite. was craaaazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markboris View Post
    So does everyone notice that the rear level is much lower than the front? My '14 Escape and friends '14 ST is not like this at all. They are both equal front and rear when the balance is set to the middle position. I watched a video from Justin in Spain when he took it to the dealer they said they did an update and now he said it is much louder and the same as the front. He has Sync 2 but I doubt that would make any difference. Both Sync 2 and 3 RS's have this issue. I PM'd him to see if he can give me more info on that update the dealer performed.
    That is a fix ford will perform for you. Talk to your dealer.

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