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This is a discussion on Disabling fake (synthetic) in-cabin engine noise within the Focus RS Electronics forums, part of the Focus RS Garage category; I also unplugged the connector and removed fuse F22 now all is quiet in the cabin. Outside engine noises are good, inside is quiet....

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    I also unplugged the connector and removed fuse F22 now all is quiet in the cabin. Outside engine noises are good, inside is quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by god7illa View Post
    I can confirm that your local shop is wrong - sounds like another uninformed opinion of someone who probably has no idea what we're doing or how this setup works.

    Cheers.
    I'm a noob on this stuff, so quick questions. I'd like the option to switch the FENG off or on. What would be the best way to accomplish this? Would I add a switch to the wires at the 2 connector? Or would if I wanted the single speaker connection (RR) would I add a switch to the 2 wires on the multi-wire connector?

    Lastly, I've gotten a Tune+ tune so my auto stop/start is disabled. Can I remove the connector from the Auto start/stop button (center console) and wire the FENG into it? Any CELs if I disconnect the Auto start/stop connector?

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    i read through thread and excuse if i missed it but what if both connectors are removed?

    what does the other connector do or for?

    i disconnected both and removed the component out of trunk and is now paper weight on desk

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    NEXT: How to disable the 'Popping & Burbling" sound in the exhaust. I would love to see a solution that is proven to not affect anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSfocus View Post
    NEXT: How to disable the 'Popping & Burbling" sound in the exhaust. I would love to see a solution that is proven to not affect anything else.

    Me, i want the 'Popping & Burbling" in normal mode
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    Quote Originally Posted by lflouie View Post
    I'm a noob on this stuff, so quick questions. I'd like the option to switch the FENG off or on. What would be the best way to accomplish this? Would I add a switch to the wires at the 2 connector? Or would if I wanted the single speaker connection (RR) would I add a switch to the 2 wires on the multi-wire connector?
    You could add a DP/ST toggle to switch in/out the RR speaker +/- wires. That's what I would do for a quick & dirty solution if I wanted RR FEN on/off control.

    Quote Originally Posted by lflouie View Post
    Lastly, I've gotten a Tune+ tune so my auto stop/start is disabled. Can I remove the connector from the Auto start/stop button (center console) and wire the FENG into it? Any CELs if I disconnect the Auto start/stop connector?
    Not without some minor circuitry. The vast majority of the buttons on cars nowadays are touch switches that make momentary contact. To use one for an on/off switch to flip something like the RR FENG speaker connections on/off would require a touch to on/off latching switch circuit. The are examples of this everywhere... e.g., Toggle ON / OFF Switch - Electronics-Lab .
    It's likely that someone somewhere makes an OTS device to do this - google may turn something up.

    I have it on my list of things to do to play around with the CANBus I/O with an Arduino + CANBus Shield at the FENG CANBus connection and see if I can get a variable level control going that would be tied to the Normal/Sport/Track/Drift modes.... but, having just moved into a new/old house a few months ago, my time is being burned up by a million other priorities. Plus the GT-R needs some attention too! Not enough hours in the day...

    I highly doubt you would get any CELs by disconnecting the Auto S/S switch connector - not gonna hurt to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RSfocus View Post
    NEXT: How to disable the 'Popping & Burbling" sound in the exhaust. I would love to see a solution that is proven to not affect anything else.
    I believe some tuners are providing this option. But I have not yet seen a mechanical/reversible/non-warranty-violating option to disable.

    Interestingly, documentation suggests that the FEN can be disabled by Ford service. This makes me suspect that there may also be an option buried somewhere to disable P&B. Maybe it's already been discovered and I missed it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by god7illa View Post
    You could add a DP/DT toggle to switch in/out the RR speaker +/- wires. That's what I would do for a quick & dirty solution if I wanted RR FEN on/off control.


    Not without some minor circuitry. The vast majority of the buttons on cars nowadays are touch switches that make momentary contact. To use one for an on/off switch to flip something like the RR FENG speaker connections on/off would require a touch to on/off latching switch circuit. The are examples of this everywhere... e.g., Toggle ON / OFF Switch - Electronics-Lab .
    It's likely that someone somewhere makes an OTS device to do this - google may turn something up.

    I have it on my list of things to do to play around with the CANBus I/O with an Arduino + CANBus Shield at the FENG CANBus connection and see if I can get a variable level control going that would be tied to the Normal/Sport/Track/Drift modes.... but, having just moved into a new/old house a few months ago, my time is being burned up by a million other priorities. Plus the GT-R needs some attention too! Not enough hours in the day...

    I highly doubt you would get any CELs by disconnecting the Auto S/S switch connector - not gonna hurt to try.
    Thx for feedback. So are you suggesting a DPDT vs a DPST (on/off) switch? If I switch off the rear speaker, wouldnt I still have both front speakers getting input? Do you know which colored wires are for rear speaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lflouie View Post
    Thx for feedback. So are you suggesting a DPDT vs a DPST (on/off) switch? If I switch off the rear speaker, wouldnt I still have both front speakers getting input? Do you know which colored wires are for rear speaker?
    Ah, sorry, yes... DPST is all you would need inserted into the RR speaker wire pair coming off the FENG. That's what I get for late night typing. Corrected, thanks.

    Assuming you want only the RR speaker emitting sound, then you would have to disconnect the other two speaker outputs from the FENG. The details are here. "Adjusting" the Fake Engine Noise volume
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    Ok. So 3 different approaches. 1) just put on off switch in the 2 wire circuit/connector = all off. 2) put switch in line with rr speaker to control rr speaker. This would work best with front speakers disconnected. 3) run front speakers thru switch and leave rr connected = choice for reduced sound or full sound.

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